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the bespoke radio for the masses

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headline edition july 8 1947

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the army air forces has announced that a

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flying disc has been found and is now in

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the possession of the army

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if the game is rigged change the game

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i occasionally think how quickly

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if we were facing an alien threat from

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this is fade to black with your host

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jimmy church on the game changer radio

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network and kgra the global radio

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i need your help to get to the year

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you're listening to fate to black with

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15 2022 46 days into the new year only

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a total undisclosed location but it is

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beautiful in here

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freezing cold i would like to welcome

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everybody listening all around the world

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hither and tether to and fro back and

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changer and nx networks i am your host

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jimmy church

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what is cracking everybody how you doing

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that's right lou's gonna be with us at

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the bottom of the hour stay right there

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tomorrow night james fox

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thursday night is another fader night

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with open lines all night long

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i posted some pictures earlier today

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and uh it's pretty incredible uh i shot

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some video too as well

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and uh i did some live streaming because

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and i don't normally do this stuff

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stay off of social media if you know

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what i mean but um

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this is the deal this weekend

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that was just go perfect weather

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excited about this and uh we've got lots

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share everything with you and uh and

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i've got some comments about uh where

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things are today in just a few minutes

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follow me on twitter at j church radio

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the sandbox

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is hashtag f2b on twitter hello to

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everybody listening and watching all

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what is going on it's going to be a

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great show tonight got a great show

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tomorrow night too as well

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and uh there you go now there is a lot

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this first study that was just released

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tomorrow the noaa

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the conflicting is conflicting the

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all right so here you go

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the worst

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case climate change scenarios with up to

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a four degrees celsius or five degrees

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this is all according to a new study

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colorado at boulder say that such

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lead author roger of polkey jr professor

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of environmental studies at colorado

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i'll talk about this more tomorrow

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because it's got to be in depth

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but we're about to have rising tides and

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climate warming is is here it's it's

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even the scientists now aren't agreeing

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with each other on this

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all right well virgin galactic back in

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the news

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virgin galactic is reopening sales of

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its tickets

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that give customers a 90-minute joy ride

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aboard an air-launched rocket that

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brushes the edge of space

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the total cost of space flight

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the initial deposit required to hold a

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on any future space plane journey is a

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hundred and fifty thousand dollars

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virgin galactic ceo michael cole uh cole

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lazier said in a statement today

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commercial service later this year

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providing an incredibly strong

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foundation as we begin regular

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and scale our fleet end quote branson

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back in july of 2021 and jeff bezos blue

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origin is fairing celebrities to the

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edge of space and of course there is

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spacex so it appears that space is

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within reach to more people than ever

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if you can afford it that's right

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researchers have developed

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a new artificial intelligence program

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that can sound

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a demo released yesterday shows the ai's

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potential to create hyper realistic

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end quote the program

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has been developed by synantic a

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london-based tech firm that produces ai

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voices for hollywood films and video

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describing the product as

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the first ai that can flirt

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the company noted that humans

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let's get to show cracking happy

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birthday to today

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the simpsons creator matt groening today

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jane seymour oh man jane seymour today

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is 71. you've got to go back she's one

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um but if you go all the way back to the

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great in the kaminsky method

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uh with michael douglas producer glenn

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johns today is 79 of course produced the

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rolling stones and led zeppelin and

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everybody else in rock and roll and ozzy

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galileo

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was an astronomer a physicist and an

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engineer

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and has been called the father of

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observational astronomy the father of

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modern physics the father of the

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scientific method and the father of

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modern science in 1633 he was sentenced

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to formal imprisonment at the pleasure

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of the inquisition

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of heresy on the following day this was

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commuted to house arrest

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under which he remained for the rest of

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his life but he also continued to

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receive visitors at his home all the way

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until 1642 went after suffering fever

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and heart palpitations

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he died on january 8 1642

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at the age of 77.

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on this day in history otd 1903

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toy store owner and inventor morris

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mitchton

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places two stuffed bears in his shop

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window

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advertising them as

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teddy

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was born

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fader fact okay now listen to me

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everybody

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and i know that there's conspiracy

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theorists out there like me

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and uh and others that have alternative

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thoughts and views on facts and things

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and and stuff and then i give you this

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fader fact

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the term

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patient

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zero okay listen to me

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the term

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patient

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zero

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is based

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on a misunderstanding

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that's right

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and early hiv patient

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was named patient

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o

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patient

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out

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of california

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end quote

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people misu interpreted

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and they saw the letter

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as the number

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zero

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that's it

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nothing more

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now you know

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that's a trip isn't it

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think about it

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all right

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tonight we have very special guests lou

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elizondo is here he's back with us

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so much to discuss and

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it was kind of funny

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this was a couple of weeks ago

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talking to lou

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and uh

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i said dude uh

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uh you know we're just yapping and we're

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like you know what man

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it's time

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it is isn't it i said yeah man got to

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get you back you think i said yeah i

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think

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and uh we were deep in conversation

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about all the stuff i said man let's

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just let's save all this chit chat for

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the show and he said absolutely let's do

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this

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and that was then we had a

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a

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river moon coffee

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man i can't believe it hailed today 75

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degrees i i put on sunscreen yesterday

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i mean no socks flip-flops

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just just

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cold drinks on the patio not a

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cloud in the sky sunny

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i had no that that i would wake up today

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to a frozen

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frozen landscape outside absolutely

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sometimes i got to get these pipes

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warmed up and i can't do it right now i

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can't do it because right now i got

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something to say

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i know everybody's here tonight for lou

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not here for me i get that

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it's funny

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00:21:19,430 --> 00:21:16,549
to think

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about how far we have come in the last

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four years

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both as a community

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and as a world

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especially when it comes

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to the ufo

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slash

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uap issue

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so much drama has passed

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so much news

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00:21:49,270 --> 00:21:45,600
so much

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one thing that i had mentioned

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four years ago

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00:22:01,350 --> 00:21:58,400
had to do with ttsa

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and what i had said back then

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i said that

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that we had to let time pass

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before we draw any conclusions

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you know it's all about trust right and

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i had said back then quite directly

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that maybe in four years

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there will be no ttsa i can't predict

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the future but maybe ttsa won't even be

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here

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they may just come and go

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they may be around they may change the

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world forever and and and they're going

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to be but maybe not

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and we have to wait

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right that they just may come and go

421
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like everything else when it comes to

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00:22:46,070 --> 00:22:42,880
ufos in this community

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that we in this community

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we are used to it

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and we are

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okay and and this community

427
00:22:58,070 --> 00:22:55,440
has a way of being very

428
00:23:03,510 --> 00:23:00,070
now here we are

429
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and no ttsa

430
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it's done it's over it's kaput

431
00:23:14,149 --> 00:23:11,440
so

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who would have thought

433
00:23:19,669 --> 00:23:16,880
that this would be the case

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in 2017.

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think about that

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what side of the fence were you on back

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00:23:26,310 --> 00:23:24,000
then

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00:23:28,789 --> 00:23:26,320
where were you in the twitter verse

439
00:23:30,390 --> 00:23:28,799
right social media in your thoughts in

440
00:23:32,870 --> 00:23:30,400
what was going on and what you were

441
00:23:35,830 --> 00:23:32,880
reading in the where were you

442
00:23:37,990 --> 00:23:35,840
you know and were you listening to me

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00:23:39,750 --> 00:23:38,000
right you know just be a little cautious

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00:23:41,830 --> 00:23:39,760
let's not push our chips into the middle

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of the table just yet let's just slow

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00:23:46,870 --> 00:23:43,440
down and wait

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but back then in 2017

448
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right

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00:23:55,430 --> 00:23:53,200
it was all about ttsa delong

450
00:23:57,669 --> 00:23:55,440
breaking down barriers

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blowing it all up

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00:24:02,149 --> 00:23:59,440
selling stock

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00:24:05,430 --> 00:24:02,159
publishing books

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00:24:09,110 --> 00:24:05,440
socks t-shirts

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00:24:11,029 --> 00:24:09,120
getting it done in all forms of media

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00:24:14,549 --> 00:24:11,039
tv shows

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00:24:16,870 --> 00:24:14,559
documentaries in the works

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00:24:18,630 --> 00:24:16,880
and just in the span of a couple of

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00:24:22,870 --> 00:24:18,640
years

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00:24:31,430 --> 00:24:25,510
today

461
00:24:33,190 --> 00:24:31,440
you think about it it happened pretty

462
00:24:35,190 --> 00:24:33,200
clean

463
00:24:37,830 --> 00:24:35,200
it just kind of

464
00:24:39,669 --> 00:24:37,840
dissolved

465
00:24:41,590 --> 00:24:39,679
today

466
00:24:44,630 --> 00:24:41,600
ttsa

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00:24:46,630 --> 00:24:44,640
has been all but forgotten

468
00:24:49,909 --> 00:24:46,640
that's right

469
00:24:51,669 --> 00:24:49,919
just me mentioning it right now probably

470
00:24:52,870 --> 00:24:51,679
sounds strange because

471
00:24:54,310 --> 00:24:52,880
in that

472
00:24:58,470 --> 00:24:54,320
right now

473
00:25:02,390 --> 00:24:58,480
you no matter who you are and where you

474
00:25:04,070 --> 00:25:02,400
were back in 2017 you right now

475
00:25:06,789 --> 00:25:04,080
right now

476
00:25:08,149 --> 00:25:06,799
you're actually thinking to yourself

477
00:25:11,669 --> 00:25:08,159
that's right

478
00:25:17,269 --> 00:25:11,679
i forgot all about ttsa church

479
00:25:24,149 --> 00:25:19,669
it's a crazy thought isn't it

480
00:25:31,510 --> 00:25:26,710
the two serious people

481
00:25:35,430 --> 00:25:31,520
that ttsa was built around

482
00:25:38,310 --> 00:25:35,440
ttsa could not have happened without

483
00:25:40,470 --> 00:25:38,320
those two people

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00:25:43,110 --> 00:25:40,480
left

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00:25:45,590 --> 00:25:43,120
and continued to do

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00:25:48,549 --> 00:25:45,600
what they set out to do back then

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00:25:50,789 --> 00:25:48,559
and that is move this issue forward at

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00:25:53,029 --> 00:25:50,799
all costs

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00:25:57,190 --> 00:25:53,039
and speaking of of course

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00:25:58,789 --> 00:25:57,200
chris mellon and lou elizondo

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now i know

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00:26:02,549 --> 00:25:59,919
i know

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and people pointed out all the time

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00:26:06,950 --> 00:26:04,320
that i have been critical

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00:26:09,190 --> 00:26:06,960
of them both in the past and i have

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absolutely

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and i still am to some degree today

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00:26:16,310 --> 00:26:14,480
i let lou know

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00:26:19,350 --> 00:26:16,320
he knows in that

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00:26:20,789 --> 00:26:19,360
in that we have to keep our foot on the

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gas

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00:26:27,110 --> 00:26:24,559
as a community as a world lou's got to

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keep his foot on the gas so do we

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00:26:33,110 --> 00:26:29,360
right

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but it's also about trust

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00:26:38,630 --> 00:26:35,600
and trust only comes

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with time

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and after four years

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00:26:46,149 --> 00:26:43,600
it's chris and lou

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that continue on

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00:26:51,029 --> 00:26:49,039
and to a large part

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00:26:52,870 --> 00:26:51,039
have really started to earn our

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00:26:55,269 --> 00:26:52,880
community's trust

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and that includes me

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now

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00:27:00,390 --> 00:26:58,880
am i all in

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00:27:03,029 --> 00:27:00,400
no

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00:27:07,590 --> 00:27:03,039
i'm getting close

519
00:27:08,789 --> 00:27:07,600
so tonight lou is back

520
00:27:11,669 --> 00:27:08,799
and

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00:27:13,350 --> 00:27:11,679
i look at it like this

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00:27:15,669 --> 00:27:13,360
lou and i

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00:27:17,590 --> 00:27:15,679
if we go back to

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00:27:18,630 --> 00:27:17,600
uh the first time that lou was on the

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00:27:21,269 --> 00:27:18,640
show

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00:27:23,190 --> 00:27:21,279
and i remember

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00:27:24,789 --> 00:27:23,200
luke's listening right now i'm sure

528
00:27:27,430 --> 00:27:24,799
jennifer's listening

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00:27:30,470 --> 00:27:27,440
and uh that first phone call

530
00:27:32,549 --> 00:27:30,480
and lou picked up the phone he knew me

531
00:27:34,389 --> 00:27:32,559
and uh he picked up the phone and he's

532
00:27:38,149 --> 00:27:34,399
laughing

533
00:27:39,830 --> 00:27:38,159
and uh

534
00:27:44,549 --> 00:27:39,840
and

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00:27:48,470 --> 00:27:46,070
let's do this

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00:27:50,389 --> 00:27:48,480
i know that the community's gonna freak

537
00:27:52,549 --> 00:27:50,399
out there's people around me that that

538
00:27:54,470 --> 00:27:52,559
that may do that and there's people

539
00:27:57,269 --> 00:27:54,480
around you church that that might do

540
00:27:58,310 --> 00:27:57,279
that and and right now they want drama

541
00:28:00,230 --> 00:27:58,320
uh

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00:28:02,950 --> 00:28:00,240
let's not give them drama let's just

543
00:28:04,230 --> 00:28:02,960
have a conversation and if it's drama

544
00:28:06,389 --> 00:28:04,240
that they want they're not going to get

545
00:28:09,350 --> 00:28:06,399
it between the two of us

546
00:28:10,389 --> 00:28:09,360
uh let's just talk you can ask whatever

547
00:28:12,870 --> 00:28:10,399
you want

548
00:28:15,350 --> 00:28:12,880
it's not that that big of a deal

549
00:28:18,710 --> 00:28:15,360
um i'm a i'm a big boy i can handle

550
00:28:20,789 --> 00:28:18,720
myself but uh let's just be honest with

551
00:28:23,430 --> 00:28:20,799
each other and we'll build some trust

552
00:28:24,310 --> 00:28:23,440
over time that was the conversation we

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00:28:25,830 --> 00:28:24,320
had

554
00:28:26,870 --> 00:28:25,840
and that

555
00:28:28,950 --> 00:28:26,880
thing

556
00:28:30,470 --> 00:28:28,960
that lou and i have together

557
00:28:31,510 --> 00:28:30,480
is what's going to happen tonight on the

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00:28:34,310 --> 00:28:31,520
show

559
00:28:35,510 --> 00:28:34,320
all right all right so am i all in

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00:28:38,630 --> 00:28:35,520
do you remember

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00:28:40,230 --> 00:28:38,640
hey man uh this thing this thing do we

562
00:28:41,110 --> 00:28:40,240
push our chips into the middle of the

563
00:28:46,549 --> 00:28:41,120
table

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00:28:48,710 --> 00:28:46,559
i say not so fast let's just chill out

565
00:28:50,789 --> 00:28:48,720
because in a couple of years we'll be

566
00:28:52,070 --> 00:28:50,799
able to look back

567
00:28:54,870 --> 00:28:52,080
and see

568
00:28:58,630 --> 00:28:54,880
where we are and i said that over and

569
00:29:00,870 --> 00:28:58,640
over again verbatim word for word

570
00:29:03,830 --> 00:29:00,880
and here we are four years later

571
00:29:05,990 --> 00:29:03,840
and the two men standing chris and lou

572
00:29:07,269 --> 00:29:06,000
that says a lot

573
00:29:08,470 --> 00:29:07,279
seriously

574
00:29:13,430 --> 00:29:08,480
all right

575
00:29:16,470 --> 00:29:13,440
back with us tomorrow night james fox

576
00:29:19,269 --> 00:29:16,480
thursday night is another fader night

577
00:29:21,430 --> 00:29:19,279
with open lines all night long i'm your

578
00:29:24,870 --> 00:29:21,440
host jimmy church this is fade to black

579
00:29:26,149 --> 00:29:24,880
on the game changer and on x networks

580
00:29:28,070 --> 00:29:26,159
it's going to be a great show tonight

581
00:29:29,669 --> 00:29:28,080
going to be a great conversation

582
00:29:31,830 --> 00:29:29,679
you just sit right there be patient

583
00:29:33,990 --> 00:29:31,840
because right after this short break

584
00:29:35,830 --> 00:29:34,000
lou elizondo is with us i'm your host

585
00:29:40,660 --> 00:29:35,840
jimmy church this is fade to black stay

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00:30:15,350 --> 00:30:13,190
[Music]

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00:30:17,590 --> 00:30:15,360
this is nicole church daughter of you

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you're listening to jimmy

675
00:34:36,950 --> 00:34:20,149
what's up i'm chris what up this is

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all right welcome back fade to black

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i'm your host jimmy church tonight

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00:34:46,310 --> 00:34:44,480
[Music]

679
00:34:48,069 --> 00:34:46,320
tonight louis lozano joins us we're

680
00:34:50,389 --> 00:34:48,079
going to discuss all of the latest

681
00:34:54,710 --> 00:34:50,399
updates around his efforts in washington

682
00:34:56,950 --> 00:34:54,720
dc and the uap issue and so much more

683
00:34:59,270 --> 00:34:56,960
and i would like to also discuss a

684
00:35:01,349 --> 00:34:59,280
little bit uh chris mellon's latest

685
00:35:02,870 --> 00:35:01,359
article over the debrief we'll see if we

686
00:35:04,950 --> 00:35:02,880
can squeeze that into as well i'm

687
00:35:06,550 --> 00:35:04,960
watching lou now he's taking notes that

688
00:35:08,150 --> 00:35:06,560
makes me nervous

689
00:35:10,550 --> 00:35:08,160
lou is the former director of the

690
00:35:13,109 --> 00:35:10,560
advanced aerospace threat identification

691
00:35:14,950 --> 00:35:13,119
program otherwise known as atip senior

692
00:35:16,390 --> 00:35:14,960
counter intelligence officer for the

693
00:35:18,230 --> 00:35:16,400
department of defense

694
00:35:20,390 --> 00:35:18,240
he operated throughout afghanistan the

695
00:35:22,790 --> 00:35:20,400
middle east and latin america is a

696
00:35:24,790 --> 00:35:22,800
trained a special agent

697
00:35:27,349 --> 00:35:24,800
who has led countless tactical and

698
00:35:29,589 --> 00:35:27,359
strategic missions both during wartime

699
00:35:31,510 --> 00:35:29,599
and at times of peace his academic

700
00:35:33,510 --> 00:35:31,520
background includes i don't buy any of

701
00:35:36,470 --> 00:35:33,520
this though this is disinfo right here

702
00:35:40,550 --> 00:35:36,480
folks microbiology

703
00:35:43,670 --> 00:35:40,560
immunology parasite ology secret agents

704
00:35:46,630 --> 00:35:43,680
and parasites with research experience

705
00:35:49,190 --> 00:35:46,640
into tropical diseases lou is also an

706
00:35:51,270 --> 00:35:49,200
inventor who holds several patents and

707
00:35:52,950 --> 00:35:51,280
he also starred with me in a film called

708
00:35:56,550 --> 00:35:52,960
the observers

709
00:35:57,990 --> 00:35:56,560
and that was a monumental achievement

710
00:35:59,829 --> 00:35:58,000
maybe tonight we'll discuss that a

711
00:36:01,750 --> 00:35:59,839
little bit too as well i would like to

712
00:36:06,470 --> 00:36:01,760
welcome back to fade to black uh the one

713
00:36:08,630 --> 00:36:06,480
and only the the you the ufo uap rebel

714
00:36:10,950 --> 00:36:08,640
luella

715
00:36:13,030 --> 00:36:10,960
jimmy thanks much for having me i'm not

716
00:36:14,710 --> 00:36:13,040
uh sure i deserve all those accolades

717
00:36:16,390 --> 00:36:14,720
you listening to you say them it

718
00:36:18,069 --> 00:36:16,400
actually makes me sound smart so anybody

719
00:36:20,230 --> 00:36:18,079
who knows me knows

720
00:36:21,910 --> 00:36:20,240
i'm not i'm not smart all my

721
00:36:24,470 --> 00:36:21,920
all uh all those brains in the family

722
00:36:27,030 --> 00:36:24,480
are on my on my girls side for sure yeah

723
00:36:28,950 --> 00:36:27,040
yeah i i respect that i i kind of feel

724
00:36:30,310 --> 00:36:28,960
the same way myself actually smoking

725
00:36:32,550 --> 00:36:30,320
mirrors lou

726
00:36:33,430 --> 00:36:32,560
smoking mirrors

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00:36:38,390 --> 00:36:33,440
um

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00:36:40,069 --> 00:36:38,400
and uh

729
00:36:42,950 --> 00:36:40,079
and i'm gonna ask you a few direct

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00:36:45,030 --> 00:36:42,960
things and um and

731
00:36:46,710 --> 00:36:45,040
i apologize a little bit to you in

732
00:36:48,870 --> 00:36:46,720
advance and that we've talked about some

733
00:36:51,670 --> 00:36:48,880
of this on the phone and i just made

734
00:36:53,349 --> 00:36:51,680
some mental notes to myself and that i

735
00:36:54,950 --> 00:36:53,359
do want to

736
00:36:58,710 --> 00:36:54,960
disclose

737
00:37:01,109 --> 00:36:58,720
to the audience that uh lose uh nice

738
00:37:04,630 --> 00:37:01,119
private conversation stay private

739
00:37:06,950 --> 00:37:04,640
um but i'm gonna dip my toe in the water

740
00:37:08,790 --> 00:37:06,960
just a little bit here um well jimmy you

741
00:37:10,470 --> 00:37:08,800
know the the rule is that there are no

742
00:37:11,349 --> 00:37:10,480
rules so you can ask me anything you

743
00:37:13,510 --> 00:37:11,359
want

744
00:37:15,589 --> 00:37:13,520
um i've always made that very clear to

745
00:37:17,030 --> 00:37:15,599
to anybody in your audience who's ever

746
00:37:19,829 --> 00:37:17,040
listened to me before

747
00:37:21,910 --> 00:37:19,839
um so so no problem i got it if there's

748
00:37:23,430 --> 00:37:21,920
something i can't answer i'll be i'll be

749
00:37:24,950 --> 00:37:23,440
forthcoming and tell you i can't answer

750
00:37:26,310 --> 00:37:24,960
and at least give you a reason why i

751
00:37:28,790 --> 00:37:26,320
can't answer it how about that fair

752
00:37:30,710 --> 00:37:28,800
enough fair enough fair enough um so

753
00:37:32,710 --> 00:37:30,720
this is one of our phone conversations

754
00:37:35,190 --> 00:37:32,720
then

755
00:37:37,349 --> 00:37:35,200
all right is this lou

756
00:37:41,829 --> 00:37:37,359
do you feel that

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00:37:45,430 --> 00:37:41,839
you have weathered the critical storm

758
00:37:47,990 --> 00:37:45,440
have you moved past it now have you have

759
00:37:49,589 --> 00:37:48,000
you seen the worst of it

760
00:37:51,910 --> 00:37:49,599
um

761
00:37:53,349 --> 00:37:51,920
no but that's that's part of the journey

762
00:37:55,750 --> 00:37:53,359
we're on right so

763
00:37:57,910 --> 00:37:55,760
anytime you stand up for something

764
00:37:59,910 --> 00:37:57,920
there's gonna be people out there that

765
00:38:02,310 --> 00:37:59,920
you are going to be challenging their

766
00:38:04,390 --> 00:38:02,320
preconceived notion or narrative

767
00:38:07,030 --> 00:38:04,400
and when you do that they have really

768
00:38:09,829 --> 00:38:07,040
two options either they can listen and

769
00:38:11,510 --> 00:38:09,839
uh hopefully uh agree to disagree or

770
00:38:13,990 --> 00:38:11,520
hopefully even better you know they they

771
00:38:15,270 --> 00:38:14,000
jump on board uh on board the the

772
00:38:17,190 --> 00:38:15,280
bandwagon

773
00:38:18,550 --> 00:38:17,200
or they can continue to resist it now

774
00:38:20,390 --> 00:38:18,560
look my

775
00:38:22,470 --> 00:38:20,400
my biggest concern here isn't for those

776
00:38:24,710 --> 00:38:22,480
out there that that constantly you know

777
00:38:27,030 --> 00:38:24,720
throw barbs at me and false accusations

778
00:38:28,550 --> 00:38:27,040
and bs like that because in reality

779
00:38:31,349 --> 00:38:28,560
those who know me know damn well who i

780
00:38:32,870 --> 00:38:31,359
am um my real concern for those those

781
00:38:35,030 --> 00:38:32,880
victims those people out there who

782
00:38:36,550 --> 00:38:35,040
actually believe these folks that are

783
00:38:38,069 --> 00:38:36,560
trying to push some sort of false

784
00:38:39,829 --> 00:38:38,079
narrative or agenda

785
00:38:41,349 --> 00:38:39,839
and don't know any better you know that

786
00:38:43,109 --> 00:38:41,359
that to me

787
00:38:44,950 --> 00:38:43,119
that's a crime that's that's criminal

788
00:38:46,870 --> 00:38:44,960
and when you prey on people like that

789
00:38:48,150 --> 00:38:46,880
who just want the answers and so what

790
00:38:50,069 --> 00:38:48,160
you do is you provide these false

791
00:38:52,310 --> 00:38:50,079
narratives and basically say listen to

792
00:38:54,470 --> 00:38:52,320
me and only do as i say and you know

793
00:38:56,790 --> 00:38:54,480
these other people are are full full of

794
00:38:58,150 --> 00:38:56,800
nonsense and don't pay attention to them

795
00:38:59,750 --> 00:38:58,160
that's dangerous behavior that's

796
00:39:01,589 --> 00:38:59,760
reckless behavior that's actually the

797
00:39:03,750 --> 00:39:01,599
antithesis of everything that i stood up

798
00:39:06,150 --> 00:39:03,760
for when i was in the military which is

799
00:39:08,230 --> 00:39:06,160
is individual freedoms and liberties and

800
00:39:10,390 --> 00:39:08,240
the ability to think on your own you

801
00:39:12,390 --> 00:39:10,400
know i'm just here to provide the truth

802
00:39:15,030 --> 00:39:12,400
and information that i was privy to and

803
00:39:16,230 --> 00:39:15,040
do it in a legal way and hopefully push

804
00:39:17,750 --> 00:39:16,240
the ball forward and we have a

805
00:39:18,630 --> 00:39:17,760
conversation and now here we are four

806
00:39:20,630 --> 00:39:18,640
years later we're having the

807
00:39:23,349 --> 00:39:20,640
conversation where were these people

808
00:39:25,750 --> 00:39:23,359
four years ago nowhere they were selling

809
00:39:27,750 --> 00:39:25,760
junk bs tickets to to some sort of

810
00:39:30,390 --> 00:39:27,760
narrative or dropping flares out of a

811
00:39:32,550 --> 00:39:30,400
plane or some sort of nonsense like that

812
00:39:34,790 --> 00:39:32,560
um you know and and now of course

813
00:39:36,870 --> 00:39:34,800
they're the most vocal and you know my

814
00:39:38,390 --> 00:39:36,880
response is well you know you had a

815
00:39:41,030 --> 00:39:38,400
chance you had an opportunity and you

816
00:39:44,069 --> 00:39:41,040
blew it instead you decided to sell your

817
00:39:46,150 --> 00:39:44,079
snake oil to to to these these people

818
00:39:48,470 --> 00:39:46,160
out there that just want an answer and

819
00:39:50,790 --> 00:39:48,480
you prey upon them and that's criminal

820
00:39:51,589 --> 00:39:50,800
that's that's that's horrible and so for

821
00:39:52,470 --> 00:39:51,599
me

822
00:39:56,470 --> 00:39:52,480
my

823
00:39:59,030 --> 00:39:56,480
towards

824
00:40:02,069 --> 00:39:59,040
that taking advantage of innocent people

825
00:40:04,950 --> 00:40:02,079
and and socking them for you know 1700

826
00:40:07,270 --> 00:40:04,960
bucks for some sort of experience

827
00:40:09,430 --> 00:40:07,280
i i am appalled by that behavior and

828
00:40:11,430 --> 00:40:09,440
more importantly i'm really really

829
00:40:13,190 --> 00:40:11,440
concerned for those people that that are

830
00:40:14,710 --> 00:40:13,200
in their grips because they're they're

831
00:40:16,630 --> 00:40:14,720
not allowed to think they're not allowed

832
00:40:17,990 --> 00:40:16,640
to to to look at an alternative

833
00:40:19,589 --> 00:40:18,000
hypothesis

834
00:40:22,550 --> 00:40:19,599
and i think that's very dangerous you

835
00:40:23,349 --> 00:40:22,560
know there's there are dictators out

836
00:40:25,430 --> 00:40:23,359
there

837
00:40:27,430 --> 00:40:25,440
throughout history that that practice

838
00:40:29,750 --> 00:40:27,440
the same type of behavior and you know

839
00:40:30,950 --> 00:40:29,760
fortunately most people are smart enough

840
00:40:32,630 --> 00:40:30,960
the problem is

841
00:40:34,790 --> 00:40:32,640
these type of people prey on emotions

842
00:40:37,270 --> 00:40:34,800
they are preying on people's

843
00:40:39,750 --> 00:40:37,280
wanting to have an answer and a belief

844
00:40:42,309 --> 00:40:39,760
in something much greater than than

845
00:40:44,630 --> 00:40:42,319
themselves and where they are

846
00:40:46,150 --> 00:40:44,640
and and i think that's

847
00:40:48,069 --> 00:40:46,160
i think that's problematic because at

848
00:40:49,829 --> 00:40:48,079
the end of the day the narrative belongs

849
00:40:51,270 --> 00:40:49,839
to everyone it belongs to you belongs to

850
00:40:52,710 --> 00:40:51,280
me it belongs to the audience out there

851
00:40:54,950 --> 00:40:52,720
that's listening to this

852
00:40:56,470 --> 00:40:54,960
and none of us should own the narrative

853
00:40:57,670 --> 00:40:56,480
this is something that collectively we

854
00:40:59,910 --> 00:40:57,680
should all be talking about around the

855
00:41:03,190 --> 00:40:59,920
dinner table and around the water cooler

856
00:41:04,470 --> 00:41:03,200
not getting on social media and and

857
00:41:07,030 --> 00:41:04,480
making

858
00:41:09,270 --> 00:41:07,040
bs accusations about people that are

859
00:41:11,030 --> 00:41:09,280
flatly wrong and then doxing them and

860
00:41:13,430 --> 00:41:11,040
trying to get personal information about

861
00:41:14,870 --> 00:41:13,440
their families i mean who does that i

862
00:41:16,950 --> 00:41:14,880
mean could i do that to them sure

863
00:41:18,230 --> 00:41:16,960
absolutely i could i was a great trained

864
00:41:21,030 --> 00:41:18,240
counterintelligence officer there's a

865
00:41:22,470 --> 00:41:21,040
whole lot of dirt i can dig up

866
00:41:24,309 --> 00:41:22,480
and i'll tell you you know to those

867
00:41:26,470 --> 00:41:24,319
people out there who are listening you

868
00:41:28,870 --> 00:41:26,480
know don't be surprised when when you

869
00:41:30,630 --> 00:41:28,880
find out the other side of the story

870
00:41:32,950 --> 00:41:30,640
that some of these same people that are

871
00:41:35,589 --> 00:41:32,960
doing this type of activity are actually

872
00:41:37,430 --> 00:41:35,599
criminals like real bonafide no kidding

873
00:41:39,430 --> 00:41:37,440
criminals that have been charged with

874
00:41:41,030 --> 00:41:39,440
crimes right i'm not going to go there

875
00:41:42,950 --> 00:41:41,040
now i don't want to sit here and start

876
00:41:45,109 --> 00:41:42,960
throwing barbs but

877
00:41:47,109 --> 00:41:45,119
you know do please do your due diligence

878
00:41:48,550 --> 00:41:47,119
you know when when the internet's full

879
00:41:50,630 --> 00:41:48,560
of misinformation

880
00:41:52,790 --> 00:41:50,640
and so it's up to people like you jimmy

881
00:41:55,190 --> 00:41:52,800
and others and and christina and the

882
00:41:57,829 --> 00:41:55,200
wonderful people that make uap you know

883
00:41:59,829 --> 00:41:57,839
uh twitter reality

884
00:42:01,670 --> 00:41:59,839
to help people know where to find real

885
00:42:03,670 --> 00:42:01,680
information right we have a moral

886
00:42:06,069 --> 00:42:03,680
obligation a responsibility because this

887
00:42:08,630 --> 00:42:06,079
topic has been in the shadows for so

888
00:42:10,870 --> 00:42:08,640
long and relegated to tin foil hats that

889
00:42:12,230 --> 00:42:10,880
it is only now being taken seriously and

890
00:42:14,309 --> 00:42:12,240
all these people out there that are

891
00:42:16,470 --> 00:42:14,319
throwing barbs had nothing to do with

892
00:42:17,829 --> 00:42:16,480
this topic being where it is today they

893
00:42:19,750 --> 00:42:17,839
aren't in any of the meetings that i'm

894
00:42:20,870 --> 00:42:19,760
in washington dc they're not in any of

895
00:42:22,230 --> 00:42:20,880
the meetings that i have with with

896
00:42:23,750 --> 00:42:22,240
senior executives they're not in any of

897
00:42:25,670 --> 00:42:23,760
the meetings that i have with with

898
00:42:26,950 --> 00:42:25,680
senior military people they're not there

899
00:42:29,349 --> 00:42:26,960
and you know why because they're full of

900
00:42:31,349 --> 00:42:29,359
crap right so they're not helping the

901
00:42:32,630 --> 00:42:31,359
conversation so anyways i guess my point

902
00:42:35,430 --> 00:42:32,640
is i don't mean to get off on a tangent

903
00:42:38,390 --> 00:42:35,440
forgive me um no i don't pay attention

904
00:42:41,910 --> 00:42:38,400
to those to those people um you know the

905
00:42:43,829 --> 00:42:41,920
time time will do a great job itself uh

906
00:42:45,349 --> 00:42:43,839
proving what's what's right and what's

907
00:42:47,030 --> 00:42:45,359
wrong and we're seeing it right now i

908
00:42:49,510 --> 00:42:47,040
don't have to lift a finger because

909
00:42:50,950 --> 00:42:49,520
quite frankly you know i'm in these me i

910
00:42:52,550 --> 00:42:50,960
just came back from washington dc with

911
00:42:55,109 --> 00:42:52,560
chris mallon and i got to tell you is

912
00:42:57,589 --> 00:42:55,119
one of the most successful times most

913
00:42:59,430 --> 00:42:57,599
successful visits we've ever had in

914
00:43:00,309 --> 00:42:59,440
washington now think about that for a

915
00:43:02,230 --> 00:43:00,319
minute

916
00:43:04,309 --> 00:43:02,240
of all the progress we've made in four

917
00:43:06,630 --> 00:43:04,319
years to now having a law on the books

918
00:43:08,069 --> 00:43:06,640
which is historic that goes into all the

919
00:43:10,790 --> 00:43:08,079
things we discussed for the last year

920
00:43:12,550 --> 00:43:10,800
and a half you and i to include you know

921
00:43:14,630 --> 00:43:12,560
medical effects right and working with

922
00:43:16,230 --> 00:43:14,640
our foreign allies and all these other

923
00:43:17,589 --> 00:43:16,240
things that we we you know people hoped

924
00:43:19,510 --> 00:43:17,599
and dreamed would one day be addressed

925
00:43:21,430 --> 00:43:19,520
it's now in there it's law

926
00:43:23,910 --> 00:43:21,440
and and these people

927
00:43:26,390 --> 00:43:23,920
that throw barbs um are rather

928
00:43:28,790 --> 00:43:26,400
inconsequential and i think most people

929
00:43:29,910 --> 00:43:28,800
most people are smart enough to see

930
00:43:31,910 --> 00:43:29,920
through it you know you've got a guy

931
00:43:34,150 --> 00:43:31,920
that's got some little silly alien icon

932
00:43:35,910 --> 00:43:34,160
on his social media and he's got a few

933
00:43:37,910 --> 00:43:35,920
you know couple hundred maybe a thousand

934
00:43:39,510 --> 00:43:37,920
followers um

935
00:43:40,790 --> 00:43:39,520
where where is that person in the

936
00:43:43,030 --> 00:43:40,800
deliberations

937
00:43:44,870 --> 00:43:43,040
nowhere where is that person when when

938
00:43:46,710 --> 00:43:44,880
we're in dc when we're having our

939
00:43:48,069 --> 00:43:46,720
meetings on the hill or or near the

940
00:43:48,950 --> 00:43:48,079
pentagon nowhere they're not anywhere

941
00:43:51,510 --> 00:43:48,960
they're in their couch they're in their

942
00:43:52,950 --> 00:43:51,520
mother's basement probably surfing porn

943
00:43:55,750 --> 00:43:52,960
they're not they're not engaged in this

944
00:43:57,510 --> 00:43:55,760
topic that's for damn sure so

945
00:44:00,870 --> 00:43:57,520
anyways there you have it i'll shut up

946
00:44:03,190 --> 00:44:00,880
now yeah how do you really feel

947
00:44:05,190 --> 00:44:03,200
you know how do you really feel and and

948
00:44:08,550 --> 00:44:05,200
kids listening to this

949
00:44:10,550 --> 00:44:08,560
i'll bite my tongue yes and uh uh when

950
00:44:12,309 --> 00:44:10,560
we uh uh

951
00:44:13,670 --> 00:44:12,319
part of the things that we uh discussed

952
00:44:15,750 --> 00:44:13,680
last week

953
00:44:18,309 --> 00:44:15,760
um uh

954
00:44:19,270 --> 00:44:18,319
i wanna say this without ego

955
00:44:20,470 --> 00:44:19,280
um

956
00:44:24,309 --> 00:44:20,480
you

957
00:44:25,190 --> 00:44:24,319
know and appreciate who i am and what i

958
00:44:27,990 --> 00:44:25,200
do

959
00:44:29,910 --> 00:44:28,000
and you also know that

960
00:44:33,510 --> 00:44:29,920
if you're going to say something to me

961
00:44:36,710 --> 00:44:33,520
it's got to be at a level to excite me

962
00:44:38,470 --> 00:44:36,720
that's that and so when you say to me

963
00:44:40,630 --> 00:44:38,480
okay church i hope you're sitting down

964
00:44:43,589 --> 00:44:40,640
because this is what i have to say i i

965
00:44:45,589 --> 00:44:43,599
actually sit down i physically sit down

966
00:44:48,790 --> 00:44:45,599
and and you said to me

967
00:44:50,870 --> 00:44:48,800
uh with that warm-up uh uh last week or

968
00:44:53,349 --> 00:44:50,880
the week before you said i just got back

969
00:44:55,109 --> 00:44:53,359
from washington and uh

970
00:44:57,990 --> 00:44:55,119
the bleep is about to hit the fan here

971
00:44:59,670 --> 00:44:58,000
we go and and you pointed out a few

972
00:45:02,150 --> 00:44:59,680
things to me

973
00:45:05,430 --> 00:45:02,160
um what happened uh what were some of

974
00:45:07,349 --> 00:45:05,440
the movements uh take me through that uh

975
00:45:08,790 --> 00:45:07,359
what happened last week in washington

976
00:45:10,790 --> 00:45:08,800
with you and chris

977
00:45:13,109 --> 00:45:10,800
um let's let's start there and then i'm

978
00:45:15,270 --> 00:45:13,119
gonna ask you next uh who did you meet

979
00:45:19,270 --> 00:45:15,280
with so let's start there

980
00:45:21,910 --> 00:45:19,280
sure so so let me just say up front

981
00:45:23,750 --> 00:45:21,920
that senator gillibrand senator rubio

982
00:45:26,230 --> 00:45:23,760
congressman burchette

983
00:45:28,950 --> 00:45:26,240
these individuals have done more on this

984
00:45:31,109 --> 00:45:28,960
topic and for america in the last year

985
00:45:33,349 --> 00:45:31,119
than i think any other lawmakers since

986
00:45:35,109 --> 00:45:33,359
harry reid that's saying a lot okay

987
00:45:36,950 --> 00:45:35,119
because harry reid is it was a dear

988
00:45:39,270 --> 00:45:36,960
friend and it was a was a patriot did a

989
00:45:41,750 --> 00:45:39,280
lot for this country along with stevens

990
00:45:42,790 --> 00:45:41,760
and inuit and and john glenn

991
00:45:44,470 --> 00:45:42,800
um

992
00:45:46,150 --> 00:45:44,480
they are engaged and their staffs are

993
00:45:47,670 --> 00:45:46,160
engaged but people need to know behind

994
00:45:48,870 --> 00:45:47,680
every one of these these these great

995
00:45:50,950 --> 00:45:48,880
lawmakers

996
00:45:52,950 --> 00:45:50,960
there are there are staff members that

997
00:45:55,109 --> 00:45:52,960
are doing a lot of the the trench work

998
00:45:57,510 --> 00:45:55,119
for them every day day in day out they

999
00:45:58,950 --> 00:45:57,520
don't get any accolades at all and these

1000
00:46:01,270 --> 00:45:58,960
are the folks that are making the magic

1001
00:46:02,870 --> 00:46:01,280
happen behind the scenes and so whenever

1002
00:46:05,109 --> 00:46:02,880
we mention these folks we have to in

1003
00:46:07,270 --> 00:46:05,119
fairness such as gillibrand and rubio

1004
00:46:09,589 --> 00:46:07,280
and brichette we have to recognize their

1005
00:46:12,150 --> 00:46:09,599
staff too because their staff are often

1006
00:46:13,270 --> 00:46:12,160
overworked underpaid it's no no no one's

1007
00:46:14,950 --> 00:46:13,280
fault it's just the way you know the

1008
00:46:16,390 --> 00:46:14,960
system you can only pay people so much

1009
00:46:18,870 --> 00:46:16,400
money to do a job

1010
00:46:21,190 --> 00:46:18,880
and and they're doing an incredible

1011
00:46:24,550 --> 00:46:21,200
incredible amount of work on this topic

1012
00:46:26,870 --> 00:46:24,560
every single day two um the the

1013
00:46:28,710 --> 00:46:26,880
intelligence and defense communities are

1014
00:46:30,630 --> 00:46:28,720
taking this topic very very seriously

1015
00:46:33,349 --> 00:46:30,640
they're committing resources and time

1016
00:46:35,109 --> 00:46:33,359
and talent and effort and yes even the

1017
00:46:37,430 --> 00:46:35,119
usdi

1018
00:46:40,309 --> 00:46:37,440
my arch nemesis right from what i was in

1019
00:46:41,589 --> 00:46:40,319
in the government um seems to be willing

1020
00:46:44,309 --> 00:46:41,599
to try to

1021
00:46:45,910 --> 00:46:44,319
to to work this topic in an amicable way

1022
00:46:47,670 --> 00:46:45,920
um you know obviously i was very

1023
00:46:48,950 --> 00:46:47,680
concerned when when the aim pro well

1024
00:46:50,990 --> 00:46:48,960
it's pronounced aim but it's actually

1025
00:46:53,430 --> 00:46:51,000
a-o-i-m-s you know

1026
00:46:54,790 --> 00:46:53,440
g-g-i-q yeah one of the wonderful

1027
00:46:57,109 --> 00:46:54,800
acronyms that we'd love to use at the

1028
00:46:58,550 --> 00:46:57,119
government um you know i was i was very

1029
00:47:00,790 --> 00:46:58,560
vocal about my concern i'm like look

1030
00:47:02,630 --> 00:47:00,800
you're going back into into the into the

1031
00:47:04,790 --> 00:47:02,640
into the den here the lion stand and

1032
00:47:06,550 --> 00:47:04,800
putting this this project where it was

1033
00:47:08,710 --> 00:47:06,560
tried you know they tried to kill it

1034
00:47:11,030 --> 00:47:08,720
right when i was in it um

1035
00:47:12,870 --> 00:47:11,040
but uh but it appears now that that

1036
00:47:15,030 --> 00:47:12,880
cooler heads are prevailing

1037
00:47:17,510 --> 00:47:15,040
and some of the the more rational

1038
00:47:19,670 --> 00:47:17,520
elements within that organization are

1039
00:47:21,190 --> 00:47:19,680
beginning to to realize hey you know we

1040
00:47:22,790 --> 00:47:21,200
really do need to take this seriously we

1041
00:47:23,910 --> 00:47:22,800
do need to work with the dni we do need

1042
00:47:26,069 --> 00:47:23,920
to work with the services and the

1043
00:47:27,750 --> 00:47:26,079
components and the field activities

1044
00:47:29,430 --> 00:47:27,760
to do a good job because the american

1045
00:47:30,710 --> 00:47:29,440
people expect it and so does congress

1046
00:47:32,470 --> 00:47:30,720
and by the way congress is going to be

1047
00:47:33,270 --> 00:47:32,480
up their butts every year if they don't

1048
00:47:36,710 --> 00:47:33,280
so

1049
00:47:38,470 --> 00:47:36,720
um i'm very pleased to see that and then

1050
00:47:40,309 --> 00:47:38,480
last but not least you know people

1051
00:47:42,549 --> 00:47:40,319
looking they always think of nimitz or

1052
00:47:44,790 --> 00:47:42,559
the roosevelt or you know

1053
00:47:47,190 --> 00:47:44,800
maybe the uss kid or some of these these

1054
00:47:48,630 --> 00:47:47,200
incidents you know a couple years ago

1055
00:47:50,150 --> 00:47:48,640
i'm not sure people appreciate these

1056
00:47:51,670 --> 00:47:50,160
things are going on

1057
00:47:56,150 --> 00:47:51,680
every day

1058
00:47:58,230 --> 00:47:56,160
like last week and the week before

1059
00:48:01,109 --> 00:47:58,240
multiple multiple events

1060
00:48:02,549 --> 00:48:01,119
um and and they are you know other

1061
00:48:03,589 --> 00:48:02,559
services not just the navy that's

1062
00:48:05,030 --> 00:48:03,599
encountering them i'm not going to go

1063
00:48:06,790 --> 00:48:05,040
into detail here

1064
00:48:09,829 --> 00:48:06,800
uh but but you know pilots are

1065
00:48:12,950 --> 00:48:09,839
frustrated and and now this the the

1066
00:48:14,870 --> 00:48:12,960
system is beginning to to slowly start

1067
00:48:16,549 --> 00:48:14,880
to grind the cogs and the gears are

1068
00:48:18,150 --> 00:48:16,559
beginning to to move in the right

1069
00:48:21,109 --> 00:48:18,160
direction so

1070
00:48:23,270 --> 00:48:21,119
so i'm very very pleased uh my very good

1071
00:48:26,230 --> 00:48:23,280
friend chris mellon and colleague chris

1072
00:48:28,230 --> 00:48:26,240
um was very helpful that that i won't

1073
00:48:29,829 --> 00:48:28,240
say who read it but that letter that he

1074
00:48:32,470 --> 00:48:29,839
wrote that was put into

1075
00:48:34,150 --> 00:48:32,480
tim mcmillan's debrief was seen at some

1076
00:48:35,430 --> 00:48:34,160
of the highest levels of our government

1077
00:48:37,109 --> 00:48:35,440
and you know by the way that was that

1078
00:48:38,790 --> 00:48:37,119
was a dense read that was a thick

1079
00:48:40,150 --> 00:48:38,800
reading that was identity of information

1080
00:48:41,829 --> 00:48:40,160
there was a lot of words there was a lot

1081
00:48:43,430 --> 00:48:41,839
of words let me stop you there for a

1082
00:48:44,150 --> 00:48:43,440
second if i may lou

1083
00:48:46,710 --> 00:48:44,160
uh

1084
00:48:47,750 --> 00:48:46,720
you just said multiple events

1085
00:48:49,990 --> 00:48:47,760
so

1086
00:48:52,549 --> 00:48:50,000
you know last week in the week before uh

1087
00:48:55,030 --> 00:48:52,559
are we talking about you know into into

1088
00:48:58,069 --> 00:48:55,040
specifics here talking about like tic

1089
00:49:00,710 --> 00:48:58,079
tac type events yup

1090
00:49:02,870 --> 00:49:00,720
yup exactly and some other type yup

1091
00:49:06,470 --> 00:49:02,880
okay okay so

1092
00:49:08,470 --> 00:49:06,480
is it the t the tic tac is back i i ca

1093
00:49:10,630 --> 00:49:08,480
you know i can't elaborate right now um

1094
00:49:12,630 --> 00:49:10,640
i i i simply have to let the government

1095
00:49:14,069 --> 00:49:12,640
do its job um

1096
00:49:16,309 --> 00:49:14,079
but you know

1097
00:49:18,069 --> 00:49:16,319
we've known these things

1098
00:49:21,750 --> 00:49:18,079
have been been seen in multiple

1099
00:49:23,349 --> 00:49:21,760
different uh forms okay okay okay i'm

1100
00:49:24,870 --> 00:49:23,359
good i'm gonna press you lou you're not

1101
00:49:27,270 --> 00:49:24,880
gonna get off that easy

1102
00:49:31,349 --> 00:49:27,280
um okay so

1103
00:49:35,510 --> 00:49:31,359
um uh the t okay let's let's

1104
00:49:37,510 --> 00:49:35,520
the u.s navy is is this uh been reported

1105
00:49:39,589 --> 00:49:37,520
by that i can't i can't go into the

1106
00:49:40,870 --> 00:49:39,599
sources of methods unfortunately

1107
00:49:42,630 --> 00:49:40,880
well okay

1108
00:49:45,270 --> 00:49:42,640
that will probably become present at

1109
00:49:47,030 --> 00:49:45,280
some point and apparent um when you know

1110
00:49:49,270 --> 00:49:47,040
this is this is why this annual the

1111
00:49:50,710 --> 00:49:49,280
report to congress is so important and

1112
00:49:53,109 --> 00:49:50,720
every six months of report to the

1113
00:49:54,710 --> 00:49:53,119
committees is so important uh because

1114
00:49:57,589 --> 00:49:54,720
that's how that information gets up and

1115
00:49:59,910 --> 00:49:57,599
then ultimately congress can can decide

1116
00:50:01,829 --> 00:49:59,920
you know to to to let certain

1117
00:50:03,589 --> 00:50:01,839
information out they can request that

1118
00:50:05,589 --> 00:50:03,599
that unclassified information be

1119
00:50:06,950 --> 00:50:05,599
provided to the public let's not forget

1120
00:50:09,030 --> 00:50:06,960
part of the requirement congress has is

1121
00:50:11,270 --> 00:50:09,040
for an unclassified report to be

1122
00:50:13,109 --> 00:50:11,280
provided that is classified that means

1123
00:50:15,589 --> 00:50:13,119
you now can read it that means all your

1124
00:50:17,270 --> 00:50:15,599
audience can obtain this report and see

1125
00:50:19,190 --> 00:50:17,280
for themselves they don't have to rely

1126
00:50:21,109 --> 00:50:19,200
now on a middle person a middleman

1127
00:50:24,069 --> 00:50:21,119
giving them information right right

1128
00:50:26,630 --> 00:50:24,079
right um now and you also said multiple

1129
00:50:27,750 --> 00:50:26,640
branches of the military that would in

1130
00:50:30,470 --> 00:50:27,760
indicate

1131
00:50:32,470 --> 00:50:30,480
uh the marines the army the air force

1132
00:50:34,710 --> 00:50:32,480
maybe even the coast guard right that's

1133
00:50:36,069 --> 00:50:34,720
other branches of the military

1134
00:50:37,829 --> 00:50:36,079
those are those are other services

1135
00:50:39,190 --> 00:50:37,839
you're absolutely right

1136
00:50:40,710 --> 00:50:39,200
really

1137
00:50:42,630 --> 00:50:40,720
okay so

1138
00:50:44,470 --> 00:50:42,640
uh this is this is like

1139
00:50:46,069 --> 00:50:44,480
uh a big news

1140
00:50:48,790 --> 00:50:46,079
right that we're getting something

1141
00:50:51,349 --> 00:50:48,800
outside of the united states navy

1142
00:50:52,710 --> 00:50:51,359
um did the did the air force finally

1143
00:50:55,829 --> 00:50:52,720
chime in we're gonna get to the air

1144
00:50:56,790 --> 00:50:55,839
force later on tonight did the air force

1145
00:50:58,710 --> 00:50:56,800
uh

1146
00:51:01,109 --> 00:50:58,720
chime in with the report

1147
00:51:03,030 --> 00:51:01,119
jimmy i'm not going to discuss specifics

1148
00:51:03,829 --> 00:51:03,040
on on who reported what and when they

1149
00:51:05,990 --> 00:51:03,839
did

1150
00:51:07,589 --> 00:51:06,000
um you know again i think that i got to

1151
00:51:09,510 --> 00:51:07,599
let the system work but but the good

1152
00:51:11,910 --> 00:51:09,520
news is that it's working it's actually

1153
00:51:13,990 --> 00:51:11,920
starting to do what it's supposed to do

1154
00:51:16,710 --> 00:51:14,000
um i think i think under the careful

1155
00:51:18,870 --> 00:51:16,720
watchful eye of congress um you know the

1156
00:51:20,390 --> 00:51:18,880
executive branch is finally finally

1157
00:51:22,390 --> 00:51:20,400
doing what it's supposed to do i gotta

1158
00:51:24,069 --> 00:51:22,400
tell you major kudos to

1159
00:51:26,630 --> 00:51:24,079
to the director of national intelligence

1160
00:51:29,829 --> 00:51:26,640
our first female uh director of national

1161
00:51:32,309 --> 00:51:29,839
intelligence avril haynes um for for

1162
00:51:34,470 --> 00:51:32,319
stepping up and and championing this

1163
00:51:38,230 --> 00:51:34,480
cause and also the the current director

1164
00:51:41,510 --> 00:51:38,240
of nasa uh who has who has become very

1165
00:51:43,109 --> 00:51:41,520
vocal and public about about this topic

1166
00:51:44,470 --> 00:51:43,119
this is incredible we've got we've got

1167
00:51:45,670 --> 00:51:44,480
people within the services and the

1168
00:51:47,910 --> 00:51:45,680
agencies

1169
00:51:49,589 --> 00:51:47,920
all now having the same conversation

1170
00:51:51,510 --> 00:51:49,599
about the same thing think how wonderful

1171
00:51:53,670 --> 00:51:51,520
that is right on this top just four

1172
00:51:56,549 --> 00:51:53,680
years ago we went from nothing to see

1173
00:51:59,349 --> 00:51:56,559
her folks there is no ufo program now

1174
00:52:00,710 --> 00:51:59,359
yeah it's real it's there we got to

1175
00:52:02,069 --> 00:52:00,720
figure it out we got to have our

1176
00:52:03,510 --> 00:52:02,079
department of defense and our

1177
00:52:05,190 --> 00:52:03,520
intelligence community and our

1178
00:52:07,670 --> 00:52:05,200
scientific community

1179
00:52:10,470 --> 00:52:07,680
all working together now

1180
00:52:12,549 --> 00:52:10,480
i have called for

1181
00:52:13,829 --> 00:52:12,559
somebody to

1182
00:52:16,790 --> 00:52:13,839
be the

1183
00:52:19,030 --> 00:52:16,800
ufo uap czar

1184
00:52:21,190 --> 00:52:19,040
somebody to make sure that these

1185
00:52:23,430 --> 00:52:21,200
different intelligence agencies and the

1186
00:52:26,230 --> 00:52:23,440
different branches of the military

1187
00:52:28,470 --> 00:52:26,240
uh including od and i in over to the

1188
00:52:31,349 --> 00:52:28,480
department of defense

1189
00:52:32,710 --> 00:52:31,359
does cooperate with each other and share

1190
00:52:34,150 --> 00:52:32,720
information

1191
00:52:37,589 --> 00:52:34,160
are you

1192
00:52:40,150 --> 00:52:37,599
that ufo uap czar is that what you were

1193
00:52:43,109 --> 00:52:40,160
doing in washington oh gosh you know

1194
00:52:44,390 --> 00:52:43,119
what um it's it i certainly would not

1195
00:52:46,470 --> 00:52:44,400
want to speak on behalf of the

1196
00:52:49,430 --> 00:52:46,480
government on who they decide

1197
00:52:52,150 --> 00:52:49,440
to pick as to be that interlocutor um

1198
00:52:54,630 --> 00:52:52,160
you know i look

1199
00:52:56,069 --> 00:52:54,640
truth be i uh

1200
00:52:58,790 --> 00:52:56,079
a lot of conversations have in

1201
00:53:01,829 --> 00:52:58,800
washington dc

1202
00:53:03,990 --> 00:53:01,839
there's a lot i can do on the outside um

1203
00:53:05,990 --> 00:53:04,000
and there's a lot i can do on the inside

1204
00:53:06,870 --> 00:53:06,000
it really depends on

1205
00:53:10,710 --> 00:53:06,880
what

1206
00:53:12,790 --> 00:53:10,720
achieve um i tried doing it on the

1207
00:53:15,109 --> 00:53:12,800
inside and you know we i think we

1208
00:53:15,910 --> 00:53:15,119
accomplished a lot when i was in etip

1209
00:53:17,829 --> 00:53:15,920
but

1210
00:53:19,349 --> 00:53:17,839
some would argue i've probably been able

1211
00:53:21,270 --> 00:53:19,359
to accomplish a lot more being on the

1212
00:53:22,790 --> 00:53:21,280
outside right so where am i more i hate

1213
00:53:24,390 --> 00:53:22,800
to say the word combat effective but you

1214
00:53:25,990 --> 00:53:24,400
know i speak in military terms that's

1215
00:53:27,910 --> 00:53:26,000
kind of my background so

1216
00:53:29,910 --> 00:53:27,920
where am i most combat effective where

1217
00:53:33,349 --> 00:53:29,920
where am i most useful for the cause

1218
00:53:35,349 --> 00:53:33,359
right um and and it would have to be

1219
00:53:38,390 --> 00:53:35,359
probably in the role that i'm in now as

1220
00:53:39,430 --> 00:53:38,400
somewhat of a facilitator interlocutor

1221
00:53:41,190 --> 00:53:39,440
um

1222
00:53:44,069 --> 00:53:41,200
you know there are things that i can't

1223
00:53:48,549 --> 00:53:44,079
do and they're things that i can do

1224
00:53:50,470 --> 00:53:48,559
as for this czar position you know i i

1225
00:53:53,510 --> 00:53:50,480
i think the old cliche may be right

1226
00:53:55,750 --> 00:53:53,520
asking you shall receive i think there

1227
00:53:57,990 --> 00:53:55,760
i think that moment is coming and i

1228
00:53:58,790 --> 00:53:58,000
think it's coming you know pretty soon i

1229
00:53:59,589 --> 00:53:58,800
think

1230
00:54:01,990 --> 00:53:59,599
um

1231
00:54:03,190 --> 00:54:02,000
the current construct has a chance to

1232
00:54:04,950 --> 00:54:03,200
work

1233
00:54:06,630 --> 00:54:04,960
there's a lot of other really really

1234
00:54:08,309 --> 00:54:06,640
smart people now that are contributing

1235
00:54:10,309 --> 00:54:08,319
to this and trying to figure out the

1236
00:54:11,910 --> 00:54:10,319
best way to do it yeah there's still

1237
00:54:13,510 --> 00:54:11,920
some bureaucratic challenges and some

1238
00:54:15,670 --> 00:54:13,520
knuckleheads i probably need to retire

1239
00:54:17,190 --> 00:54:15,680
sooner rather than later

1240
00:54:18,390 --> 00:54:17,200
but i also have faith and confidence

1241
00:54:19,430 --> 00:54:18,400
that those people probably won't be in

1242
00:54:21,750 --> 00:54:19,440
the loop

1243
00:54:23,190 --> 00:54:21,760
uh in the final format of what this

1244
00:54:24,790 --> 00:54:23,200
looks like

1245
00:54:26,870 --> 00:54:24,800
you know congress and the department of

1246
00:54:28,790 --> 00:54:26,880
defense are pretty smart

1247
00:54:30,950 --> 00:54:28,800
and i think they they can see where

1248
00:54:31,910 --> 00:54:30,960
those those speed bumps are

1249
00:54:33,829 --> 00:54:31,920
so

1250
00:54:35,510 --> 00:54:33,839
yeah there you have it okay i want to go

1251
00:54:37,109 --> 00:54:35,520
back to uh before we hit the break i

1252
00:54:39,109 --> 00:54:37,119
want to go back to gillibrand for a

1253
00:54:40,309 --> 00:54:39,119
second and specifically on that

1254
00:54:41,109 --> 00:54:40,319
amendment

1255
00:54:42,069 --> 00:54:41,119
um

1256
00:54:43,990 --> 00:54:42,079
when

1257
00:54:45,430 --> 00:54:44,000
you read through it which i have and

1258
00:54:47,430 --> 00:54:45,440
many others have

1259
00:54:49,430 --> 00:54:47,440
it's very lengthy it's very wordy but

1260
00:54:51,670 --> 00:54:49,440
it's also very comprehensive

1261
00:54:53,190 --> 00:54:51,680
okay there's a lot of information there

1262
00:54:55,510 --> 00:54:53,200
when you read this

1263
00:54:57,349 --> 00:54:55,520
that that didn't come out of her head i

1264
00:54:59,670 --> 00:54:57,359
i i just don't think she has that kind

1265
00:55:00,950 --> 00:54:59,680
of knowledge into the subject with that

1266
00:55:04,069 --> 00:55:00,960
kind of depth

1267
00:55:06,710 --> 00:55:04,079
did you and chris assist her

1268
00:55:08,710 --> 00:55:06,720
with the body text look senator

1269
00:55:10,870 --> 00:55:08,720
gillibrand actually is really really

1270
00:55:12,470 --> 00:55:10,880
smart absolutely you know she's she

1271
00:55:13,829 --> 00:55:12,480
spread really thin like most senators

1272
00:55:15,829 --> 00:55:13,839
are they got a lot of issues you got to

1273
00:55:17,349 --> 00:55:15,839
deal with and gotta you know try to try

1274
00:55:19,349 --> 00:55:17,359
to represent their constituents the best

1275
00:55:21,190 --> 00:55:19,359
that they can and their state interests

1276
00:55:22,950 --> 00:55:21,200
uh you know she's she's no dummy you

1277
00:55:25,030 --> 00:55:22,960
know if you look where she went to law

1278
00:55:26,870 --> 00:55:25,040
school um you know i i couldn't have

1279
00:55:29,030 --> 00:55:26,880
gotten into that school because i never

1280
00:55:30,549 --> 00:55:29,040
would have been accepted so you know she

1281
00:55:34,870 --> 00:55:30,559
she's definitely very intelligent and

1282
00:55:37,109 --> 00:55:34,880
her staff is remarkable um and so

1283
00:55:38,390 --> 00:55:37,119
i don't really want to comment specifics

1284
00:55:40,150 --> 00:55:38,400
of where they might or might not have

1285
00:55:41,270 --> 00:55:40,160
got their their their some other

1286
00:55:44,150 --> 00:55:41,280
language

1287
00:55:46,150 --> 00:55:44,160
i will say that chris and i have always

1288
00:55:47,430 --> 00:55:46,160
offered ourselves up in any way possible

1289
00:55:50,549 --> 00:55:47,440
to assist

1290
00:55:53,030 --> 00:55:50,559
anybody any lawmaker or senior leader

1291
00:55:54,309 --> 00:55:53,040
in this in this topic and so

1292
00:55:55,589 --> 00:55:54,319
um

1293
00:55:57,349 --> 00:55:55,599
you know again i'm not going to speak

1294
00:55:59,030 --> 00:55:57,359
for the good senator but she is she is

1295
00:56:00,309 --> 00:55:59,040
highly intelligent and don't be fooled

1296
00:56:02,470 --> 00:56:00,319
by anybody

1297
00:56:05,430 --> 00:56:02,480
um you know she may be new to the topic

1298
00:56:06,630 --> 00:56:05,440
but but uh she's she's a really fast

1299
00:56:08,470 --> 00:56:06,640
learner

1300
00:56:09,430 --> 00:56:08,480
well

1301
00:56:12,230 --> 00:56:09,440
yeah

1302
00:56:13,750 --> 00:56:12,240
so you did assist because look you have

1303
00:56:16,870 --> 00:56:13,760
to go

1304
00:56:19,829 --> 00:56:16,880
to the source of this information to to

1305
00:56:22,150 --> 00:56:19,839
make sure that it is presented when this

1306
00:56:24,069 --> 00:56:22,160
is legislation like this

1307
00:56:26,630 --> 00:56:24,079
it's got to be correct right and you've

1308
00:56:30,390 --> 00:56:26,640
got to make sure and you are going to

1309
00:56:32,150 --> 00:56:30,400
reach out to the specialist that that

1310
00:56:34,789 --> 00:56:32,160
has the information that you need to

1311
00:56:37,670 --> 00:56:34,799
include into this and i and others

1312
00:56:39,270 --> 00:56:37,680
specifically we're reading through this

1313
00:56:41,750 --> 00:56:39,280
there has to have been assistance you

1314
00:56:44,069 --> 00:56:41,760
know probably coming from chris and and

1315
00:56:46,150 --> 00:56:44,079
lou on this and i'm glad that they were

1316
00:56:48,710 --> 00:56:46,160
there because it is worded correctly and

1317
00:56:50,069 --> 00:56:48,720
it addresses the issues that we've all

1318
00:56:52,789 --> 00:56:50,079
been concerned about when it comes to

1319
00:56:54,150 --> 00:56:52,799
ufos and uaps jimmy we've got one shot

1320
00:56:56,470 --> 00:56:54,160
to do it right and a whole bunch of

1321
00:56:58,950 --> 00:56:56,480
shots to do wrong right so so let's

1322
00:57:00,870 --> 00:56:58,960
let's let's let's do it correctly let's

1323
00:57:02,870 --> 00:57:00,880
let's take our time

1324
00:57:05,589 --> 00:57:02,880
and and let's let's

1325
00:57:06,950 --> 00:57:05,599
let's do it right and um

1326
00:57:08,630 --> 00:57:06,960
yeah that's that's about all i can say

1327
00:57:10,150 --> 00:57:08,640
about the legislation you know chris is

1328
00:57:12,710 --> 00:57:10,160
a

1329
00:57:14,870 --> 00:57:12,720
chris 101

1330
00:57:16,950 --> 00:57:14,880
he is probably and this is a lot's

1331
00:57:18,309 --> 00:57:16,960
coming from me he is probably

1332
00:57:20,870 --> 00:57:18,319
single-handedly one of the smartest

1333
00:57:21,750 --> 00:57:20,880
individuals i have ever

1334
00:57:25,670 --> 00:57:21,760
ever

1335
00:57:26,950 --> 00:57:25,680
met uh it's almost scary um he he thinks

1336
00:57:31,510 --> 00:57:26,960
in in

1337
00:57:32,789 --> 00:57:31,520
playing three-dimensional chess and i'm

1338
00:57:35,349 --> 00:57:32,799
not even playing checkers i'm playing

1339
00:57:36,230 --> 00:57:35,359
foursquare right he's connect four he's

1340
00:57:40,630 --> 00:57:36,240
he's

1341
00:57:42,390 --> 00:57:40,640
lot of time in the legislative branch a

1342
00:57:44,870 --> 00:57:42,400
lot of time in the executive branch both

1343
00:57:46,390 --> 00:57:44,880
at very senior levels he understands the

1344
00:57:48,150 --> 00:57:46,400
relationship and how both of those

1345
00:57:50,470 --> 00:57:48,160
organizations work

1346
00:57:53,510 --> 00:57:50,480
he's he's truly one of those rare

1347
00:57:56,309 --> 00:57:53,520
masters that you get once a century

1348
00:57:58,069 --> 00:57:56,319
uh one quick question uh before we head

1349
00:57:59,030 --> 00:57:58,079
to the break this popped up in the chat

1350
00:58:01,990 --> 00:57:59,040
room

1351
00:58:03,829 --> 00:58:02,000
um and this is a serious question

1352
00:58:05,190 --> 00:58:03,839
you know and this is from the community

1353
00:58:07,670 --> 00:58:05,200
lou so

1354
00:58:09,990 --> 00:58:07,680
look at me in focus

1355
00:58:11,109 --> 00:58:10,000
do you prefer you gotta be worried now

1356
00:58:13,109 --> 00:58:11,119
jimmy

1357
00:58:16,230 --> 00:58:13,119
do you prefer

1358
00:58:19,670 --> 00:58:16,240
home depot

1359
00:58:22,950 --> 00:58:21,190
well

1360
00:58:25,829 --> 00:58:22,960
the fact that i'm i'm sponsored by

1361
00:58:27,910 --> 00:58:25,839
neither of them and home depot probably

1362
00:58:29,430 --> 00:58:27,920
is about to erect a statue of me in

1363
00:58:31,430 --> 00:58:29,440
front of their shop because i've spent

1364
00:58:34,549 --> 00:58:31,440
so much money at this point

1365
00:58:36,390 --> 00:58:34,559
and my wife at that location um

1366
00:58:37,829 --> 00:58:36,400
you know home depot

1367
00:58:39,829 --> 00:58:37,839
uh it's kind of like you know the

1368
00:58:41,990 --> 00:58:39,839
american express how you get this like

1369
00:58:44,309 --> 00:58:42,000
american express black card if you're

1370
00:58:46,630 --> 00:58:44,319
like really really like super elite well

1371
00:58:47,750 --> 00:58:46,640
home beat depot does the same thing no

1372
00:58:48,870 --> 00:58:47,760
i'm kidding they don't really do that

1373
00:58:50,630 --> 00:58:48,880
but if they did

1374
00:58:54,549 --> 00:58:50,640
i would have one of those

1375
00:58:58,230 --> 00:58:54,559
a home depot platinum uh uh titanium

1376
00:59:01,750 --> 00:58:58,240
steel card right yeah right exactly i i

1377
00:59:04,069 --> 00:59:01,760
love home depot um i am i'm a blue

1378
00:59:05,829 --> 00:59:04,079
collar guy as you know i do you know

1379
00:59:08,309 --> 00:59:05,839
auto mechanic and do a lot of carpentry

1380
00:59:09,670 --> 00:59:08,319
and electrical and plumbing work um not

1381
00:59:11,829 --> 00:59:09,680
because i want to it's because i'm too

1382
00:59:14,630 --> 00:59:11,839
damn cheap and so i made the mistake a

1383
00:59:17,270 --> 00:59:14,640
long long time ago with my my incredibly

1384
00:59:18,789 --> 00:59:17,280
lovely wife when we were first dating

1385
00:59:21,349 --> 00:59:18,799
she knew i could do all these things

1386
00:59:23,670 --> 00:59:21,359
well that's a mistake because now

1387
00:59:26,470 --> 00:59:23,680
here i am you know in my my later part

1388
00:59:28,870 --> 00:59:26,480
of my uh my my young life and i'm stuck

1389
00:59:32,069 --> 00:59:28,880
doing all the home repairs because it

1390
00:59:33,349 --> 00:59:32,079
saves a lot of money um and a few years

1391
00:59:36,150 --> 00:59:33,359
back you know my

1392
00:59:37,910 --> 00:59:36,160
my wife would i think uh get favors from

1393
00:59:39,910 --> 00:59:37,920
her friends by loaning me out to do

1394
00:59:41,270 --> 00:59:39,920
other odd jobs you know so once i'm

1395
00:59:42,630 --> 00:59:41,280
finished with my honey doula she'd say

1396
00:59:44,390 --> 00:59:42,640
hey listen can you go over to sally's

1397
00:59:45,829 --> 00:59:44,400
house and you know maybe fix their fan

1398
00:59:47,990 --> 00:59:45,839
or fix their electrical work because

1399
00:59:50,549 --> 00:59:48,000
they're having issues

1400
00:59:53,270 --> 00:59:50,559
so yeah back to the home depot question

1401
00:59:55,349 --> 00:59:53,280
uh i i know home depot very well in fact

1402
00:59:57,910 --> 00:59:55,359
if you want electrical supplies that's

1403
00:59:59,589 --> 00:59:57,920
going to be on aisle 19

1404
01:00:01,829 --> 00:59:59,599
supply i can tell you exactly they

1405
01:00:04,549 --> 01:00:01,839
haven't been stocked absolutely no you

1406
01:00:06,789 --> 01:00:04,559
know what um uh i think you volunteer

1407
01:00:09,190 --> 01:00:06,799
for more than you're leading on i think

1408
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you volunteer because uh lou said to me

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we were talking jeeps one day or on the

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phone and this is a

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quote this is word for word church bring

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that jeep up to my house let's work on

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that thing let's modify that thing

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01:00:25,430 --> 01:00:23,440
that's what you you volunteered for that

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01:00:28,390 --> 01:00:25,440
absolutely man you see my girl i'm a

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jeep guy man i love jeeps i love trucks

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01:00:32,230 --> 01:00:30,400
and motorcycles uh i'm a gearhead you

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01:00:34,470 --> 01:00:32,240
know it's funny because i love working

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01:00:35,829 --> 01:00:34,480
on on cars and um and they don't

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01:00:37,190 --> 01:00:35,839
at you they don't yell you know unlike

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people when you're in the medical field

1422
01:00:40,230 --> 01:00:38,720
and you're you're trying to fix them up

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01:00:42,069 --> 01:00:40,240
they're screaming and complaining at you

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01:00:43,990 --> 01:00:42,079
and you got malpractice you don't have

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01:00:46,150 --> 01:00:44,000
vehicles you just put on some loud rock

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01:00:48,390 --> 01:00:46,160
and roll music and and you know maybe

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crack a beer or so and and and you're

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good and usually hopefully what you've

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done you know the vehicle turns out

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better than than when you found it but

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um i particularly like the old jeeps

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01:01:01,190 --> 01:00:58,720
those old girls won the wars for us and

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in world war ii and korean war

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and um you know there's not a whole lot

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01:01:06,789 --> 01:01:05,520
of those old girls left and i just i'd

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love to restore them back to their

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01:01:12,230 --> 01:01:09,839
original glory and and just you know

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bring them back to to their original

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their original luster um they they did a

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lot you know they won the wars for for

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our country no doubt about what i love

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mine one day as we head to the break uh

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uh

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one day i took a picture

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of the tire

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lou asked me to i sent him the picture

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01:01:39,510 --> 01:01:33,599
for two days he texted me

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01:01:43,829 --> 01:01:41,190
let's take our break right here we'll

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get back to ufos and uaps right after

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this break with lou elizondo i am your

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host jimmy church this is fade to black

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stay with us we'll be right back after

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you're listening to my main man jimmy

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01:05:48,069 --> 01:05:46,150
hi this is ray sobs here repping the

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planet and you're listening to my good

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friend jimmy church fade to black

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we're the honey brothers

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and you're listening to jimmy church the

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this is jimmy churchill fade to black

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not by just going to our membership

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to fade to black with jimmy church who

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holds the lucky pony record for the best

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report and you're listening to jimmy

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church on fade to black

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[Music]

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01:07:09,510 --> 01:07:06,960
welcome back fade to black i'm yours

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01:07:11,109 --> 01:07:09,520
jimmy church tonight lou elizondo is

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01:07:13,349 --> 01:07:11,119
with us

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01:07:15,430 --> 01:07:13,359
this is fade to black

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01:07:18,309 --> 01:07:15,440
now i've i've set the tone for the

1557
01:07:21,670 --> 01:07:18,319
evening and uh

1558
01:07:23,750 --> 01:07:21,680
i've got to tell you lou we have uh

1559
01:07:25,430 --> 01:07:23,760
a million questions that have been

1560
01:07:27,270 --> 01:07:25,440
emailed to me posted throughout social

1561
01:07:29,910 --> 01:07:27,280
media and i can almost

1562
01:07:32,870 --> 01:07:29,920
just you know just read down the list of

1563
01:07:34,870 --> 01:07:32,880
questions but one of the things and i'm

1564
01:07:36,150 --> 01:07:34,880
sure that you've caught some of this you

1565
01:07:38,470 --> 01:07:36,160
pay attention

1566
01:07:41,270 --> 01:07:38,480
uh to social media

1567
01:07:42,710 --> 01:07:41,280
one of the things that comes up over and

1568
01:07:44,470 --> 01:07:42,720
over again

1569
01:07:47,109 --> 01:07:44,480
is is trust

1570
01:07:49,029 --> 01:07:47,119
so i'm going to ask you a bla i mean

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01:07:51,109 --> 01:07:49,039
there are those that you know you know

1572
01:07:53,029 --> 01:07:51,119
trust lou and there's those that say i'm

1573
01:07:55,190 --> 01:07:53,039
on the fence and then the other i don't

1574
01:07:57,750 --> 01:07:55,200
trust him at all

1575
01:07:59,190 --> 01:07:57,760
and so i'm going to ask it in in this

1576
01:08:01,190 --> 01:07:59,200
way

1577
01:08:03,829 --> 01:08:01,200
should i jimmy church

1578
01:08:06,789 --> 01:08:03,839
trust you should i trust

1579
01:08:08,710 --> 01:08:06,799
a disinformation special agent

1580
01:08:11,270 --> 01:08:08,720
well first of all counterintelligence

1581
01:08:13,510 --> 01:08:11,280
isn't a disinformation special agent

1582
01:08:16,309 --> 01:08:13,520
that is the work of psyops psychological

1583
01:08:19,030 --> 01:08:16,319
operations oh so i i said it i said it

1584
01:08:20,630 --> 01:08:19,040
incorrectly but i think i think you know

1585
01:08:23,110 --> 01:08:20,640
well i think people will misunderstand

1586
01:08:25,110 --> 01:08:23,120
my job when they lose trained sites

1587
01:08:27,189 --> 01:08:25,120
counterintelligence special agent he was

1588
01:08:29,990 --> 01:08:27,199
trained to deceive that's not correct my

1589
01:08:32,390 --> 01:08:30,000
job was to capture terrorists and spies

1590
01:08:33,189 --> 01:08:32,400
that's what my job was and so

1591
01:08:35,269 --> 01:08:33,199
uh

1592
01:08:37,189 --> 01:08:35,279
whether you trust me or not that's up to

1593
01:08:38,470 --> 01:08:37,199
you that's a personal decision i would

1594
01:08:39,749 --> 01:08:38,480
never tell anybody

1595
01:08:41,189 --> 01:08:39,759
because this goes right back into the

1596
01:08:42,870 --> 01:08:41,199
same trap where these other idiots are

1597
01:08:45,269 --> 01:08:42,880
telling people oh only trust me and what

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01:08:46,870 --> 01:08:45,279
i say right you do your own homework the

1599
01:08:49,110 --> 01:08:46,880
bottom line is proof is in the pudding

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if you don't like what i'm doing then

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01:08:51,510 --> 01:08:50,560
you don't have to listen to what i have

1602
01:08:53,510 --> 01:08:51,520
to say

1603
01:08:55,110 --> 01:08:53,520
but you can't deny that we have achieved

1604
01:08:57,749 --> 01:08:55,120
more in four years than

1605
01:08:59,990 --> 01:08:57,759
than 99 of these other people have in

1606
01:09:01,430 --> 01:09:00,000
their entire lifetimes now

1607
01:09:03,349 --> 01:09:01,440
does that mean you should trust me i

1608
01:09:04,870 --> 01:09:03,359
don't know it's up to you you don't have

1609
01:09:06,789 --> 01:09:04,880
to try to look people trust presidents

1610
01:09:08,229 --> 01:09:06,799
and they distrust presidents people

1611
01:09:10,390 --> 01:09:08,239
trust their their spouses and they

1612
01:09:12,470 --> 01:09:10,400
distrust their spouses i mean this is

1613
01:09:15,189 --> 01:09:12,480
the real world we live in you know i'm

1614
01:09:16,950 --> 01:09:15,199
not here to win a popularity contest you

1615
01:09:18,550 --> 01:09:16,960
know i do these these these

1616
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conversations radio shows and the

1617
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universe reviews that i do on on radio

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and podcasting for free because i'm

1619
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trying to to get information i haven't

1620
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sold people you know seventeen hundred

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01:09:30,870 --> 01:09:28,799
dollars to to some place to come hear me

1622
01:09:32,870 --> 01:09:30,880
talk i'm not i'm not doing that you

1623
01:09:34,630 --> 01:09:32,880
don't see me doing that my information's

1624
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free you can choose to listen to it or

1625
01:09:37,669 --> 01:09:36,080
you can choose to listen to somebody

1626
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else i'll never tell you don't listen to

1627
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somebody else what it will simply say is

1628
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anybody else who tells you that their

1629
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opinion is the only one that counts

1630
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you better really pay attention and be

1631
01:09:50,390 --> 01:09:48,640
careful because that's a warning sign

1632
01:09:52,390 --> 01:09:50,400
whether you should trust me i have to

1633
01:09:54,790 --> 01:09:52,400
earn your trust okay i don't expect

1634
01:09:56,390 --> 01:09:54,800
people to blindly trust me i expect you

1635
01:09:58,149 --> 01:09:56,400
to look at my track record i expect you

1636
01:10:00,070 --> 01:09:58,159
to look at what i've said in the past

1637
01:10:01,990 --> 01:10:00,080
and have i delivered it's simple yes or

1638
01:10:04,870 --> 01:10:02,000
no there's no you don't need to go into

1639
01:10:07,270 --> 01:10:04,880
other well let me look simple yes or no

1640
01:10:09,430 --> 01:10:07,280
did i deliver on what i said i was going

1641
01:10:10,550 --> 01:10:09,440
to deliver and have i said the things

1642
01:10:12,709 --> 01:10:10,560
that i've said and had they come to

1643
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fruition that's it it's that simple and

1644
01:10:15,910 --> 01:10:14,480
at the end of the day if you still want

1645
01:10:17,189 --> 01:10:15,920
to trust because you don't like my beard

1646
01:10:18,470 --> 01:10:17,199
you don't like my goatee or you don't

1647
01:10:19,830 --> 01:10:18,480
like whatever hat i'm wearing today

1648
01:10:22,310 --> 01:10:19,840
because i'm wearing an american flag on

1649
01:10:23,910 --> 01:10:22,320
it then don't trust me you know i i

1650
01:10:25,510 --> 01:10:23,920
don't really care i'm still doing what

1651
01:10:27,110 --> 01:10:25,520
i'm doing you're not going to stop me

1652
01:10:28,390 --> 01:10:27,120
from doing what i'm doing and if you

1653
01:10:30,550 --> 01:10:28,400
want to be part of the suffering you

1654
01:10:32,149 --> 01:10:30,560
want to be part of the conversation guys

1655
01:10:34,470 --> 01:10:32,159
there's and gals there's enough room on

1656
01:10:36,550 --> 01:10:34,480
the boat for everybody come one come all

1657
01:10:38,550 --> 01:10:36,560
i love you all come on board even those

1658
01:10:40,550 --> 01:10:38,560
who disagree that's okay because

1659
01:10:42,870 --> 01:10:40,560
alternative analysis is important what i

1660
01:10:45,110 --> 01:10:42,880
don't like are fraudsters and hoaxers

1661
01:10:47,189 --> 01:10:45,120
those people are not welcome on the boat

1662
01:10:49,110 --> 01:10:47,199
so if those people don't don't trust me

1663
01:10:50,709 --> 01:10:49,120
then god bless them good i don't want

1664
01:10:52,550 --> 01:10:50,719
them to trust me because those are

1665
01:10:54,630 --> 01:10:52,560
exactly the kind of people i don't want

1666
01:10:56,310 --> 01:10:54,640
on board let them stay out there in the

1667
01:10:58,070 --> 01:10:56,320
fringe let them continue doing what

1668
01:10:59,750 --> 01:10:58,080
they're doing because it allows me to

1669
01:11:01,350 --> 01:10:59,760
continue focusing on the real work that

1670
01:11:03,110 --> 01:11:01,360
needs to be done which is real

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01:11:04,070 --> 01:11:03,120
disclosure

1672
01:11:08,950 --> 01:11:04,080
um

1673
01:11:10,470 --> 01:11:08,960
i remember this uh

1674
01:11:12,950 --> 01:11:10,480
entire uh

1675
01:11:15,350 --> 01:11:12,960
situation as it unfolded you picked up

1676
01:11:17,510 --> 01:11:15,360
some metal samples from benny foggins

1677
01:11:21,910 --> 01:11:17,520
and and larry seekander

1678
01:11:24,070 --> 01:11:21,920
um what what happened uh to those

1679
01:11:26,390 --> 01:11:24,080
to those metal samples are

1680
01:11:28,950 --> 01:11:26,400
are they now classified

1681
01:11:30,709 --> 01:11:28,960
is is there something else going on

1682
01:11:31,669 --> 01:11:30,719
larry and benning are are great people i

1683
01:11:33,669 --> 01:11:31,679
don't know if you ever had a chance to

1684
01:11:35,990 --> 01:11:33,679
talk with them uh but but extremely

1685
01:11:37,669 --> 01:11:36,000
forthcoming and really riveting stories

1686
01:11:40,149 --> 01:11:37,679
and they have been very very generous in

1687
01:11:41,669 --> 01:11:40,159
their ability to to allow us to look at

1688
01:11:43,910 --> 01:11:41,679
stuff i'm not going to get into detail

1689
01:11:47,750 --> 01:11:43,920
that's up for them to discuss

1690
01:11:49,270 --> 01:11:47,760
when i left ttsa the the creda if you

1691
01:11:52,229 --> 01:11:49,280
will that we had the crate agreement

1692
01:11:54,870 --> 01:11:52,239
went with me i was the signatory on it

1693
01:11:57,110 --> 01:11:54,880
we are still very interested in in in

1694
01:11:59,910 --> 01:11:57,120
materials all materials any material

1695
01:12:01,590 --> 01:11:59,920
that is interesting um and you know

1696
01:12:03,350 --> 01:12:01,600
quite frankly benny and larry deserve to

1697
01:12:05,350 --> 01:12:03,360
have their day in court on this they

1698
01:12:08,709 --> 01:12:05,360
they have their they deserve

1699
01:12:11,189 --> 01:12:08,719
to to have professionals look at the

1700
01:12:13,750 --> 01:12:11,199
material with the same level of rigor

1701
01:12:15,590 --> 01:12:13,760
that we we apply towards other things

1702
01:12:17,590 --> 01:12:15,600
and so that is what we're working very

1703
01:12:20,070 --> 01:12:17,600
hard on i i cannot unfortunately i'm not

1704
01:12:22,229 --> 01:12:20,080
liberty to go into a lot of detail and

1705
01:12:23,830 --> 01:12:22,239
some of this really is is also their

1706
01:12:25,669 --> 01:12:23,840
business so out of due respect for them

1707
01:12:27,430 --> 01:12:25,679
i don't want to say too much

1708
01:12:30,149 --> 01:12:27,440
what i will say is we are still very

1709
01:12:31,750 --> 01:12:30,159
interested in it okay uh so data

1710
01:12:35,590 --> 01:12:31,760
has there been

1711
01:12:37,750 --> 01:12:35,600
uh conclusions of the measurement and

1712
01:12:41,189 --> 01:12:37,760
observation of the material there has

1713
01:12:43,030 --> 01:12:41,199
been some preliminary um analysis i'm

1714
01:12:44,870 --> 01:12:43,040
not going to go into detail on that more

1715
01:12:46,470 --> 01:12:44,880
analysis needs to be done

1716
01:12:48,149 --> 01:12:46,480
we need now

1717
01:12:50,870 --> 01:12:48,159
the right expertise with the right

1718
01:12:52,550 --> 01:12:50,880
equipment and talent to to go into the

1719
01:12:54,229 --> 01:12:52,560
next level and really really begin to

1720
01:12:56,550 --> 01:12:54,239
scrutinize this

1721
01:12:59,110 --> 01:12:56,560
it's really too early for me to provide

1722
01:13:02,390 --> 01:12:59,120
any type of of uh analytic conclusion

1723
01:13:04,630 --> 01:13:02,400
it's just it's too premature who is

1724
01:13:06,630 --> 01:13:04,640
responsible for releasing the

1725
01:13:08,870 --> 01:13:06,640
information of the data not only back to

1726
01:13:10,870 --> 01:13:08,880
benny and larry but to the public does

1727
01:13:13,110 --> 01:13:10,880
that come from the army

1728
01:13:14,630 --> 01:13:13,120
well look the material belongs at least

1729
01:13:15,990 --> 01:13:14,640
the mature you're talking about belongs

1730
01:13:17,270 --> 01:13:16,000
to benny and larry

1731
01:13:18,870 --> 01:13:17,280
there's other material we have that

1732
01:13:20,950 --> 01:13:18,880
doesn't but the material that belongs to

1733
01:13:23,110 --> 01:13:20,960
benny larry that's their property so

1734
01:13:24,630 --> 01:13:23,120
it's up to them to determine

1735
01:13:26,630 --> 01:13:24,640
what they want to say publicly about

1736
01:13:28,790 --> 01:13:26,640
this when the results come out the final

1737
01:13:30,950 --> 01:13:28,800
results that's not up to me that's their

1738
01:13:32,550 --> 01:13:30,960
property because they were kind enough

1739
01:13:33,590 --> 01:13:32,560
to allow us to look at it that's their

1740
01:13:35,270 --> 01:13:33,600
business

1741
01:13:36,470 --> 01:13:35,280
i'm not certainly going to speak on

1742
01:13:38,630 --> 01:13:36,480
behalf of

1743
01:13:41,030 --> 01:13:38,640
of larry or benny um

1744
01:13:42,149 --> 01:13:41,040
you know i frankly wouldn't even even

1745
01:13:43,590 --> 01:13:42,159
acknowledge

1746
01:13:45,189 --> 01:13:43,600
those individuals but you said their

1747
01:13:46,870 --> 01:13:45,199
names um

1748
01:13:48,709 --> 01:13:46,880
but um you know these these are good

1749
01:13:50,470 --> 01:13:48,719
people and deserve to have the answers

1750
01:13:52,550 --> 01:13:50,480
that that they're looking for and you

1751
01:13:55,189 --> 01:13:52,560
know we we want to help them out

1752
01:13:57,590 --> 01:13:55,199
is it leaning towards

1753
01:13:59,030 --> 01:13:57,600
uh you can nod your head and if you

1754
01:14:01,430 --> 01:13:59,040
can't answer

1755
01:14:05,110 --> 01:14:01,440
is it leaning towards uh

1756
01:14:06,630 --> 01:14:05,120
an origin not of this earth

1757
01:14:08,470 --> 01:14:06,640
it's too early to tell some of the

1758
01:14:10,229 --> 01:14:08,480
material is interesting um it's

1759
01:14:11,990 --> 01:14:10,239
interesting enough to toward further

1760
01:14:13,669 --> 01:14:12,000
analysis and i'll say that okay i'm not

1761
01:14:16,149 --> 01:14:13,679
going to go any more than that because

1762
01:14:17,830 --> 01:14:16,159
i'm not a material science expert right

1763
01:14:19,590 --> 01:14:17,840
and i'm certainly

1764
01:14:22,149 --> 01:14:19,600
you know i'm certainly in a position

1765
01:14:24,630 --> 01:14:22,159
where where we really real i really want

1766
01:14:26,310 --> 01:14:24,640
to give more time and latitude to have

1767
01:14:27,990 --> 01:14:26,320
the right studies done the worst thing

1768
01:14:30,149 --> 01:14:28,000
you want to do is come with something

1769
01:14:32,070 --> 01:14:30,159
come out with something conclusively but

1770
01:14:34,950 --> 01:14:32,080
prematurely uh that doesn't do anybody

1771
01:14:36,630 --> 01:14:34,960
any good now you had said to me uh this

1772
01:14:39,510 --> 01:14:36,640
was a couple of months ago and i'm

1773
01:14:41,510 --> 01:14:39,520
bringing it up now in front of the

1774
01:14:42,870 --> 01:14:41,520
record for the audience please clarify i

1775
01:14:45,510 --> 01:14:42,880
don't want anybody to think that i

1776
01:14:47,350 --> 01:14:45,520
provided you those names no no no no

1777
01:14:49,110 --> 01:14:47,360
that's that's my

1778
01:14:51,510 --> 01:14:49,120
their oh yeah well

1779
01:14:52,550 --> 01:14:51,520
lou knows nothing about what's inside of

1780
01:14:53,669 --> 01:14:52,560
my head

1781
01:14:58,310 --> 01:14:53,679
what's gonna

1782
01:15:00,070 --> 01:14:58,320
a couple of months ago

1783
01:15:03,030 --> 01:15:00,080
you said to me

1784
01:15:05,590 --> 01:15:03,040
that you had grown a beard and you're

1785
01:15:07,430 --> 01:15:05,600
getting in shape you're working on your

1786
01:15:09,430 --> 01:15:07,440
diet you've lost weight i wouldn't

1787
01:15:11,430 --> 01:15:09,440
recognize you well

1788
01:15:12,709 --> 01:15:11,440
uh because you're working on your book

1789
01:15:14,550 --> 01:15:12,719
that's what you said to me now i'm

1790
01:15:18,070 --> 01:15:14,560
looking at you now you haven't lost that

1791
01:15:20,790 --> 01:15:18,080
weight but you did grow the beard

1792
01:15:22,070 --> 01:15:20,800
well actually i lost 30 pounds

1793
01:15:24,390 --> 01:15:22,080
i'm up another five pounds but that's

1794
01:15:26,470 --> 01:15:24,400
okay you know the camera

1795
01:15:28,229 --> 01:15:26,480
i don't see it but how's the book coming

1796
01:15:31,669 --> 01:15:28,239
along what's going on

1797
01:15:33,990 --> 01:15:31,679
um it's it's coming along quite well um

1798
01:15:36,070 --> 01:15:34,000
you know the uh

1799
01:15:38,390 --> 01:15:36,080
writing a book um

1800
01:15:40,149 --> 01:15:38,400
is is not easy um

1801
01:15:41,669 --> 01:15:40,159
and you got to put a lot of time into it

1802
01:15:43,750 --> 01:15:41,679
it's not just putting your thoughts down

1803
01:15:47,110 --> 01:15:43,760
on paper right you have to you have to

1804
01:15:48,070 --> 01:15:47,120
back things up and this book i i want it

1805
01:15:50,229 --> 01:15:48,080
to be

1806
01:15:53,189 --> 01:15:50,239
that people can look at for years and

1807
01:15:56,709 --> 01:15:53,199
years to come and say wow that was that

1808
01:15:58,709 --> 01:15:56,719
was a a moment in time that changed the

1809
01:16:00,950 --> 01:15:58,719
conversation

1810
01:16:04,709 --> 01:16:00,960
it put out information that was

1811
01:16:07,110 --> 01:16:04,719
absolutely irrefutable

1812
01:16:09,270 --> 01:16:07,120
and there's also a very very real reason

1813
01:16:10,470 --> 01:16:09,280
why i'm writing this book um i'm not

1814
01:16:12,630 --> 01:16:10,480
going to go into it right now it'll be

1815
01:16:13,750 --> 01:16:12,640
apparent once it's out and once it's out

1816
01:16:15,430 --> 01:16:13,760
i think people are going to have a whole

1817
01:16:17,110 --> 01:16:15,440
new appreciation they're going to say oh

1818
01:16:18,630 --> 01:16:17,120
how clever that's

1819
01:16:19,590 --> 01:16:18,640
makes a lot of sense

1820
01:16:21,110 --> 01:16:19,600
um

1821
01:16:23,750 --> 01:16:21,120
i'm writing the book for a very specific

1822
01:16:25,990 --> 01:16:23,760
reason and i think it will be

1823
01:16:27,510 --> 01:16:26,000
helpful to a lot of people it will what

1824
01:16:29,430 --> 01:16:27,520
i want to do is stop the conversation

1825
01:16:31,350 --> 01:16:29,440
from going backwards so if anything if

1826
01:16:34,630 --> 01:16:31,360
this book

1827
01:16:37,750 --> 01:16:34,640
think of a road right creates um

1828
01:16:40,310 --> 01:16:37,760
creates some sort of of of roadblock

1829
01:16:42,950 --> 01:16:40,320
that prevents you from sliding backwards

1830
01:16:44,630 --> 01:16:42,960
then then that will be that will be an

1831
01:16:46,310 --> 01:16:44,640
achievement for me that's what i want to

1832
01:16:48,550 --> 01:16:46,320
achieve i don't want the conversation

1833
01:16:50,709 --> 01:16:48,560
ever trying to be pushed back into the

1834
01:16:52,950 --> 01:16:50,719
bottle i want this book to stand on its

1835
01:16:54,709 --> 01:16:52,960
own and people say okay

1836
01:16:57,110 --> 01:16:54,719
we can never go back to where we were

1837
01:17:00,470 --> 01:16:57,120
because this this one book because of

1838
01:17:02,630 --> 01:17:00,480
this book now we know abcde as an

1839
01:17:04,310 --> 01:17:02,640
absolute fact and therefore

1840
01:17:05,910 --> 01:17:04,320
let's continue to have a conversation

1841
01:17:09,510 --> 01:17:05,920
moving forward

1842
01:17:10,630 --> 01:17:09,520
and the book is centered on the ufo uap

1843
01:17:12,709 --> 01:17:10,640
issue

1844
01:17:14,709 --> 01:17:12,719
yes it is and i mean i could talk about

1845
01:17:17,030 --> 01:17:14,719
a whole lot of stuff in my life but you

1846
01:17:19,189 --> 01:17:17,040
know um the book would be a hell of a

1847
01:17:20,630 --> 01:17:19,199
lot longer than that so i don't want to

1848
01:17:23,350 --> 01:17:20,640
put people to sleep i want to keep it

1849
01:17:25,669 --> 01:17:23,360
very focused on the topic uh my time in

1850
01:17:27,830 --> 01:17:25,679
atip and what we found and how we found

1851
01:17:29,510 --> 01:17:27,840
it and who was with us and and and

1852
01:17:30,870 --> 01:17:29,520
whatnot and i think that's important i

1853
01:17:33,030 --> 01:17:30,880
think i think the american people

1854
01:17:34,070 --> 01:17:33,040
deserve to have that information

1855
01:17:36,229 --> 01:17:34,080
do you

1856
01:17:38,550 --> 01:17:36,239
consider yourself

1857
01:17:40,470 --> 01:17:38,560
uh somebody that

1858
01:17:42,550 --> 01:17:40,480
knows secrets

1859
01:17:46,390 --> 01:17:42,560
or do you consider yourself when it

1860
01:17:48,709 --> 01:17:46,400
comes to the ufo uap et issue

1861
01:17:50,470 --> 01:17:48,719
or do you consider yourself someone that

1862
01:17:52,790 --> 01:17:50,480
is trying

1863
01:17:54,790 --> 01:17:52,800
to get at that information

1864
01:17:57,590 --> 01:17:54,800
no we know secrets i mean that's that i

1865
01:17:59,990 --> 01:17:57,600
had a security clearance absolutely no

1866
01:18:02,790 --> 01:18:00,000
secrets i can't discuss them but what i

1867
01:18:04,310 --> 01:18:02,800
can do is provide unclassified

1868
01:18:06,390 --> 01:18:04,320
information in a way and by the way

1869
01:18:07,990 --> 01:18:06,400
that's never been revealed before in a

1870
01:18:10,229 --> 01:18:08,000
way that i don't have to have a

1871
01:18:12,229 --> 01:18:10,239
classified conversation

1872
01:18:14,149 --> 01:18:12,239
those videos were perfect example you

1873
01:18:16,470 --> 01:18:14,159
know atyp did a lot of classified work

1874
01:18:18,470 --> 01:18:16,480
you're just now now seeing some of this

1875
01:18:20,310 --> 01:18:18,480
information come to fruition let me let

1876
01:18:22,229 --> 01:18:20,320
me share with you a headline just today

1877
01:18:23,990 --> 01:18:22,239
with your readers that came out

1878
01:18:25,750 --> 01:18:24,000
uh and and normally i wouldn't do this

1879
01:18:28,870 --> 01:18:25,760
but this is important listen to this

1880
01:18:33,510 --> 01:18:30,310
life beyond

1881
01:18:35,590 --> 01:18:33,520
nsa warns aliens could contact humans

1882
01:18:37,910 --> 01:18:35,600
through high frequency signals as

1883
01:18:38,950 --> 01:18:37,920
experts warn we're not alone in the

1884
01:18:40,870 --> 01:18:38,960
universe

1885
01:18:42,630 --> 01:18:40,880
the national security agency has warned

1886
01:18:44,550 --> 01:18:42,640
that aliens could contact humans through

1887
01:18:46,149 --> 01:18:44,560
high frequency signals as experts say

1888
01:18:48,550 --> 01:18:46,159
we're not alone in the universe a

1889
01:18:50,030 --> 01:18:48,560
declassified document from the nsa

1890
01:18:52,790 --> 01:18:50,040
titled communication with

1891
01:18:55,030 --> 01:18:52,800
extraterrestrial intelligence explains

1892
01:18:56,950 --> 01:18:55,040
the various methods aliens could use to

1893
01:18:58,390 --> 01:18:56,960
communicate now

1894
01:19:01,189 --> 01:18:58,400
this is a headline that came out from

1895
01:19:03,669 --> 01:19:01,199
the nsa national security agency it was

1896
01:19:05,030 --> 01:19:03,679
a classified document but i am certain

1897
01:19:07,030 --> 01:19:05,040
because we're now having this

1898
01:19:09,350 --> 01:19:07,040
conversation publicly it has been

1899
01:19:11,990 --> 01:19:09,360
declassified it is now in the public

1900
01:19:15,270 --> 01:19:12,000
sphere now now think about that that's

1901
01:19:18,550 --> 01:19:15,280
just one example of the nsa why would if

1902
01:19:19,990 --> 01:19:18,560
nobody in the government was looking at

1903
01:19:22,550 --> 01:19:20,000
ufos

1904
01:19:23,510 --> 01:19:22,560
then why would the nsa

1905
01:19:26,790 --> 01:19:23,520
write

1906
01:19:28,229 --> 01:19:26,800
a report titled classified report titled

1907
01:19:29,990 --> 01:19:28,239
communicate with extraterrestrials

1908
01:19:31,990 --> 01:19:30,000
intelligence

1909
01:19:34,229 --> 01:19:32,000
what's the date on that yeah what's the

1910
01:19:36,310 --> 01:19:34,239
date on that report

1911
01:19:38,870 --> 01:19:36,320
uh my gosh well i'd have to go through

1912
01:19:39,620 --> 01:19:38,880
this whole thing here um let me take a

1913
01:19:41,110 --> 01:19:39,630
look here

1914
01:19:44,790 --> 01:19:41,120
[Music]

1915
01:19:46,070 --> 01:19:44,800
you have to give me a moment um

1916
01:19:47,430 --> 01:19:46,080
let's see here hundred thousand light

1917
01:19:50,390 --> 01:19:47,440
years away

1918
01:19:51,990 --> 01:19:50,400
uh you know called the uh

1919
01:19:53,270 --> 01:19:52,000
i will have to find it for you unless

1920
01:19:54,229 --> 01:19:53,280
you want me to spend the next five

1921
01:19:55,270 --> 01:19:54,239
minutes

1922
01:19:57,030 --> 01:19:55,280
but

1923
01:19:59,110 --> 01:19:57,040
i'm sure one of your readers probably or

1924
01:20:01,110 --> 01:19:59,120
your listeners right now is going to

1925
01:20:03,750 --> 01:20:01,120
throw it up on the chat group i i'm

1926
01:20:05,030 --> 01:20:03,760
certain that they are aware of it

1927
01:20:06,870 --> 01:20:05,040
but that's a big deal because think

1928
01:20:10,390 --> 01:20:06,880
about it what it means is that

1929
01:20:13,590 --> 01:20:10,400
it's not just dod or the cia or the air

1930
01:20:15,350 --> 01:20:13,600
force or the dni it is the nsa

1931
01:20:18,390 --> 01:20:15,360
that is putting out that report that was

1932
01:20:20,870 --> 01:20:18,400
classified so my point being back to the

1933
01:20:22,709 --> 01:20:20,880
book you know a lot of times you can say

1934
01:20:25,110 --> 01:20:22,719
things and do things those videos that

1935
01:20:26,629 --> 01:20:25,120
were released in 2017

1936
01:20:28,629 --> 01:20:26,639
those that even though they were

1937
01:20:30,470 --> 01:20:28,639
unclassified videos a little bit grainy

1938
01:20:33,189 --> 01:20:30,480
they did a lot to spark the conversation

1939
01:20:34,629 --> 01:20:33,199
they allowed very sensitive classified

1940
01:20:36,310 --> 01:20:34,639
information to finally get to where it

1941
01:20:37,910 --> 01:20:36,320
needs to go to to the point now where

1942
01:20:39,669 --> 01:20:37,920
some of that information is being

1943
01:20:40,870 --> 01:20:39,679
provided to the public

1944
01:20:43,830 --> 01:20:40,880
with uh

1945
01:20:46,470 --> 01:20:43,840
uh to to that point if this is is

1946
01:20:48,550 --> 01:20:46,480
something recent you know uh within a

1947
01:20:49,510 --> 01:20:48,560
year or two

1948
01:20:51,830 --> 01:20:49,520
uh

1949
01:20:53,189 --> 01:20:51,840
that's significant it may even be more

1950
01:20:55,669 --> 01:20:53,199
significant

1951
01:20:56,950 --> 01:20:55,679
if it's an older report right if it's 10

1952
01:20:59,350 --> 01:20:56,960
years old

1953
01:21:01,590 --> 01:20:59,360
and i i just find that really really

1954
01:21:04,310 --> 01:21:01,600
interesting and also the mention of high

1955
01:21:07,270 --> 01:21:04,320
frequency and so would that indicate to

1956
01:21:08,149 --> 01:21:07,280
you specifically about this nsa report

1957
01:21:11,350 --> 01:21:08,159
lou

1958
01:21:14,390 --> 01:21:11,360
that they know something that they are

1959
01:21:15,350 --> 01:21:14,400
they may have received a signal right do

1960
01:21:17,430 --> 01:21:15,360
you have to

1961
01:21:19,430 --> 01:21:17,440
read between the lines here well i mean

1962
01:21:21,189 --> 01:21:19,440
it's always fun to speculate right right

1963
01:21:22,709 --> 01:21:21,199
but at the end of the day you know it

1964
01:21:24,790 --> 01:21:22,719
doesn't really get us any closer to the

1965
01:21:26,229 --> 01:21:24,800
truth it's just a hypothesis um

1966
01:21:28,709 --> 01:21:26,239
obviously you don't spend government

1967
01:21:29,590 --> 01:21:28,719
money taxpayer money unless there's a

1968
01:21:31,430 --> 01:21:29,600
reason

1969
01:21:33,430 --> 01:21:31,440
so someone commissioned this report

1970
01:21:34,550 --> 01:21:33,440
someone commissioned this report a lot

1971
01:21:36,229 --> 01:21:34,560
of people someone had to write it

1972
01:21:37,830 --> 01:21:36,239
someone had to analyze it someone had to

1973
01:21:39,270 --> 01:21:37,840
correct it someone had to approve it

1974
01:21:41,430 --> 01:21:39,280
someone had to coordinate it someone had

1975
01:21:43,110 --> 01:21:41,440
to distribute it so it's not just you

1976
01:21:45,189 --> 01:21:43,120
know a one-off someone writing a a

1977
01:21:47,590 --> 01:21:45,199
report i mean this this is a an

1978
01:21:49,590 --> 01:21:47,600
officially sanctioned report from none

1979
01:21:51,590 --> 01:21:49,600
other than the national security agency

1980
01:21:52,629 --> 01:21:51,600
right so people who do fisas and stuff

1981
01:21:54,149 --> 01:21:52,639
like that for an intelligent

1982
01:21:56,709 --> 01:21:54,159
surveillance act so

1983
01:22:00,149 --> 01:21:56,719
so um wasting their time on something

1984
01:22:03,430 --> 01:22:00,159
frivolous is probably not a wise idea so

1985
01:22:05,110 --> 01:22:03,440
so um you know you you you you read

1986
01:22:08,149 --> 01:22:05,120
between the lines

1987
01:22:13,830 --> 01:22:08,159
yeah well i'm doing just that and i want

1988
01:22:14,950 --> 01:22:13,840
to go back to uh this ufo uap czar if

1989
01:22:15,830 --> 01:22:14,960
you will

1990
01:22:20,870 --> 01:22:15,840
the

1991
01:22:22,390 --> 01:22:20,880
air force and we'll deal with that in

1992
01:22:25,030 --> 01:22:22,400
the next segment

1993
01:22:27,990 --> 01:22:25,040
the agencies are used to

1994
01:22:30,070 --> 01:22:28,000
not cooperating not communicating not

1995
01:22:33,110 --> 01:22:30,080
only to the public or to capitol hill

1996
01:22:36,070 --> 01:22:33,120
but to anybody and to other agencies

1997
01:22:37,189 --> 01:22:36,080
how do we know if they are revealing

1998
01:22:40,709 --> 01:22:37,199
because

1999
01:22:41,669 --> 01:22:40,719
uh in in in processing these reports

2000
01:22:45,430 --> 01:22:41,679
through

2001
01:22:46,790 --> 01:22:45,440
uh to aim to get to reports that will go

2002
01:22:49,189 --> 01:22:46,800
to congress

2003
01:22:51,910 --> 01:22:49,199
how do we know what they know great

2004
01:22:54,550 --> 01:22:51,920
question great question well well they

2005
01:22:56,629 --> 01:22:54,560
weren't and and it seems now this is why

2006
01:22:59,110 --> 01:22:56,639
i said the gears are beginning to turn

2007
01:23:01,189 --> 01:22:59,120
uh it it is apparent to me and a few

2008
01:23:03,189 --> 01:23:01,199
others that that it is starting to work

2009
01:23:04,709 --> 01:23:03,199
that there is that collaboration and

2010
01:23:06,229 --> 01:23:04,719
coordination and cooperation amongst

2011
01:23:08,629 --> 01:23:06,239
agencies is still not as good as it

2012
01:23:10,070 --> 01:23:08,639
should be but but it's a hell of a start

2013
01:23:11,350 --> 01:23:10,080
it's happening that conversation is

2014
01:23:13,750 --> 01:23:11,360
occurring they're having working groups

2015
01:23:15,830 --> 01:23:13,760
they're having weekly meetings vtcs

2016
01:23:17,990 --> 01:23:15,840
video television conferences

2017
01:23:19,669 --> 01:23:18,000
and they have reports to congress and

2018
01:23:20,870 --> 01:23:19,679
the committees are are asking the hard

2019
01:23:23,189 --> 01:23:20,880
questions they're poking them into

2020
01:23:24,709 --> 01:23:23,199
chests and saying hey we want answers

2021
01:23:27,990 --> 01:23:24,719
what are you doing come up here and

2022
01:23:30,070 --> 01:23:28,000
testify so so that's that's a big deal

2023
01:23:31,830 --> 01:23:30,080
it's working i mean this is this is

2024
01:23:33,590 --> 01:23:31,840
really if there was anything that that i

2025
01:23:35,830 --> 01:23:33,600
could ask your audience to do would be

2026
01:23:37,430 --> 01:23:35,840
just you know what write a quick note to

2027
01:23:39,430 --> 01:23:37,440
to to congress to those folks and just

2028
01:23:42,629 --> 01:23:39,440
say thanks because it'd probably mean a

2029
01:23:44,790 --> 01:23:42,639
lot because they put a lot of of of

2030
01:23:46,229 --> 01:23:44,800
equity on the line

2031
01:23:47,750 --> 01:23:46,239
and credibility to have this

2032
01:23:49,430 --> 01:23:47,760
conversation they're willing to risk

2033
01:23:51,430 --> 01:23:49,440
everything to have the conversation and

2034
01:23:54,709 --> 01:23:51,440
force the government to do its job

2035
01:23:56,550 --> 01:23:54,719
um i i'll bet you that that gillibrand

2036
01:23:58,390 --> 01:23:56,560
and rubio and burchette would love just

2037
01:24:00,149 --> 01:23:58,400
a simple email just saying hey you know

2038
01:24:01,510 --> 01:24:00,159
what we really appreciate it thank you

2039
01:24:03,430 --> 01:24:01,520
because they're they're doing a great

2040
01:24:05,270 --> 01:24:03,440
job gallego the same thing he's doing a

2041
01:24:07,270 --> 01:24:05,280
fantastic job following this up as well

2042
01:24:10,229 --> 01:24:07,280
and there's some other individuals uh

2043
01:24:13,830 --> 01:24:10,239
warner and company walker congressman

2044
01:24:16,550 --> 01:24:13,840
walker uh from from from his last tenure

2045
01:24:18,709 --> 01:24:16,560
really did a lot to to try to open this

2046
01:24:20,390 --> 01:24:18,719
conversation up there's there's there's

2047
01:24:22,149 --> 01:24:20,400
a there's a pretty good comprehensive

2048
01:24:23,350 --> 01:24:22,159
list of of heroes out there that i bet

2049
01:24:26,390 --> 01:24:23,360
would love

2050
01:24:28,629 --> 01:24:26,400
uh just to hear you know a simple thanks

2051
01:24:30,629 --> 01:24:28,639
now how far back uh does the

2052
01:24:32,950 --> 01:24:30,639
conversation go when it comes to rubio

2053
01:24:35,270 --> 01:24:32,960
and gillibrand and others in the senate

2054
01:24:37,910 --> 01:24:35,280
intelligence committee

2055
01:24:39,590 --> 01:24:37,920
interfacing back to od and i

2056
01:24:41,830 --> 01:24:39,600
and the department of defense and

2057
01:24:44,390 --> 01:24:41,840
specifically now aim

2058
01:24:46,550 --> 01:24:44,400
how far back did the details go

2059
01:24:48,390 --> 01:24:46,560
are there conversations about roswell

2060
01:24:51,750 --> 01:24:48,400
are there conversations about things

2061
01:24:54,149 --> 01:24:51,760
that uh predated 2004

2062
01:24:55,590 --> 01:24:54,159
well of course before 2004. i i don't

2063
01:24:57,350 --> 01:24:55,600
want to i don't want to

2064
01:24:58,870 --> 01:24:57,360
go and necessarily say roswell because

2065
01:25:00,390 --> 01:24:58,880
that tends to be a third rail issue

2066
01:25:02,070 --> 01:25:00,400
right for a lot of people

2067
01:25:04,149 --> 01:25:02,080
but yeah we want to know what what does

2068
01:25:06,390 --> 01:25:04,159
the dod know how long have we known

2069
01:25:08,310 --> 01:25:06,400
about it and and what what did we figure

2070
01:25:10,229 --> 01:25:08,320
out if anything and these are the right

2071
01:25:11,750 --> 01:25:10,239
questions to ask you know that i tried

2072
01:25:13,669 --> 01:25:11,760
to make the point last year that you

2073
01:25:16,310 --> 01:25:13,679
know we talk about the tic tac

2074
01:25:18,149 --> 01:25:16,320
all the time but in the 50s and 60s they

2075
01:25:20,149 --> 01:25:18,159
saw the same thing that referred to it

2076
01:25:22,149 --> 01:25:20,159
as a flying white throat lozenge and

2077
01:25:24,229 --> 01:25:22,159
another case is a flying white butane

2078
01:25:25,990 --> 01:25:24,239
tank yes that's right yes it's the same

2079
01:25:27,430 --> 01:25:26,000
thing and it's just it's just described

2080
01:25:28,629 --> 01:25:27,440
from the from the current paradigm of

2081
01:25:31,110 --> 01:25:28,639
you know what

2082
01:25:32,629 --> 01:25:31,120
of of of marketing and and the type of

2083
01:25:34,229 --> 01:25:32,639
products that we use today and so we

2084
01:25:36,390 --> 01:25:34,239
call it a white tic tac versus a you

2085
01:25:37,910 --> 01:25:36,400
know white butane tank but but it's the

2086
01:25:39,270 --> 01:25:37,920
same object doing the same thing and we

2087
01:25:41,189 --> 01:25:39,280
have radar tracks for these things doing

2088
01:25:42,950 --> 01:25:41,199
13 000 miles an hour and we have

2089
01:25:44,629 --> 01:25:42,960
eyewitness testimony we have all the

2090
01:25:47,030 --> 01:25:44,639
same stuff we have today just not quite

2091
01:25:48,310 --> 01:25:47,040
as sophisticated so so yeah congress

2092
01:25:49,350 --> 01:25:48,320
wants to know how long have we known

2093
01:25:52,310 --> 01:25:49,360
about it and why haven't we done

2094
01:25:54,550 --> 01:25:52,320
anything about it in the past or have we

2095
01:25:57,270 --> 01:25:54,560
can i ask you um

2096
01:25:58,229 --> 01:25:57,280
what do you know about roswell

2097
01:26:02,790 --> 01:25:58,239
did you

2098
01:26:05,990 --> 01:26:02,800
do any investigation in in in a

2099
01:26:09,110 --> 01:26:06,000
in a secure way at the pentagon did you

2100
01:26:12,070 --> 01:26:09,120
look into it as well very clear when i

2101
01:26:15,669 --> 01:26:12,080
was at at we of course were all aware of

2102
01:26:18,470 --> 01:26:15,679
roswell but our focus was on the current

2103
01:26:20,390 --> 01:26:18,480
issues of what was facing our our

2104
01:26:23,110 --> 01:26:20,400
militaries what was the military

2105
01:26:25,030 --> 01:26:23,120
eyewitnesses today seeing

2106
01:26:27,350 --> 01:26:25,040
what was the the

2107
01:26:29,510 --> 01:26:27,360
radar tracks that we were picking up

2108
01:26:32,149 --> 01:26:29,520
what was the electro optical the gun

2109
01:26:33,910 --> 01:26:32,159
camera footage suggesting right because

2110
01:26:35,189 --> 01:26:33,920
roswell is a very cold case not that

2111
01:26:37,110 --> 01:26:35,199
it's important i'm sure it's very

2112
01:26:38,310 --> 01:26:37,120
important it's a landmark but but at the

2113
01:26:40,470 --> 01:26:38,320
end of the day

2114
01:26:42,709 --> 01:26:40,480
military leaders aren't don't care about

2115
01:26:44,229 --> 01:26:42,719
what happened 50 60 70 years ago they

2116
01:26:45,350 --> 01:26:44,239
have they care about what happened 90

2117
01:26:47,189 --> 01:26:45,360
minutes ago

2118
01:26:50,070 --> 01:26:47,199
and do they have to shoot it down or do

2119
01:26:52,470 --> 01:26:50,080
they have to defend themselves right um

2120
01:26:55,110 --> 01:26:52,480
so for that reason we really really

2121
01:26:56,709 --> 01:26:55,120
stuck to current type cases the nimitz

2122
01:26:57,750 --> 01:26:56,719
was probably the most historic that we

2123
01:26:59,990 --> 01:26:57,760
looked at

2124
01:27:02,229 --> 01:27:00,000
um there was somebody but let me let me

2125
01:27:03,669 --> 01:27:02,239
jump in before we get to the break

2126
01:27:08,070 --> 01:27:03,679
did you

2127
01:27:10,550 --> 01:27:08,080
learn anything about roswell

2128
01:27:14,070 --> 01:27:10,560
well i mean i'd like to think so you you

2129
01:27:15,189 --> 01:27:14,080
talk to enough people you hear nothing

2130
01:27:17,030 --> 01:27:15,199
you know

2131
01:27:19,910 --> 01:27:17,040
was it indeed a

2132
01:27:22,310 --> 01:27:19,920
a craft uh from outside of the solar

2133
01:27:24,790 --> 01:27:22,320
system it was not a

2134
01:27:25,669 --> 01:27:24,800
a weather balloon it wasn't crash test

2135
01:27:27,669 --> 01:27:25,679
dummies

2136
01:27:29,350 --> 01:27:27,679
suggest that obviously this wasn't a

2137
01:27:31,590 --> 01:27:29,360
weather balloon in fact it may have been

2138
01:27:33,430 --> 01:27:31,600
multiple incidents not even one i'm not

2139
01:27:35,590 --> 01:27:33,440
going to go into any more detail i i

2140
01:27:37,270 --> 01:27:35,600
wasn't there i don't have first-hand

2141
01:27:38,229 --> 01:27:37,280
knowledge so i want to be very careful

2142
01:27:39,990 --> 01:27:38,239
with that

2143
01:27:41,430 --> 01:27:40,000
i don't like to speculate as you know or

2144
01:27:42,709 --> 01:27:41,440
offer opinions

2145
01:27:44,310 --> 01:27:42,719
i'd like to stick with the facts and

2146
01:27:48,629 --> 01:27:44,320
what the data suggests

2147
01:27:51,510 --> 01:27:48,639
um did the data suggest

2148
01:27:53,750 --> 01:27:51,520
you're good man yes did the data suggest

2149
01:27:57,189 --> 01:27:53,760
that this was indeed

2150
01:27:59,110 --> 01:27:57,199
uh a craft uh not of this earth

2151
01:28:01,590 --> 01:27:59,120
the data suggested that what happened in

2152
01:28:07,830 --> 01:28:01,600
in

2153
01:28:11,110 --> 01:28:07,840
that okay all right all right i'm i'm

2154
01:28:13,430 --> 01:28:11,120
gonna push i'm gonna push um uh one last

2155
01:28:17,350 --> 01:28:13,440
question uh before we head to the break

2156
01:28:18,229 --> 01:28:17,360
this comes from again uh social media

2157
01:28:23,110 --> 01:28:18,239
uh

2158
01:28:26,229 --> 01:28:23,120
how many different races of ets

2159
01:28:27,110 --> 01:28:26,239
are are visiting earth have you

2160
01:28:29,030 --> 01:28:27,120
been

2161
01:28:32,390 --> 01:28:29,040
shown a number

2162
01:28:35,750 --> 01:28:32,400
i i'm i'm not even gonna go near that i

2163
01:28:38,149 --> 01:28:35,760
i uh i i i don't know um we've heard a

2164
01:28:39,910 --> 01:28:38,159
lot of different theories right you know

2165
01:28:42,390 --> 01:28:39,920
and theories are just that right until

2166
01:28:43,590 --> 01:28:42,400
they become fact

2167
01:28:45,669 --> 01:28:43,600
in fact a lot of these were just

2168
01:28:47,590 --> 01:28:45,679
hypothesis i'm not not going to go there

2169
01:28:48,790 --> 01:28:47,600
there's information to suggest all sorts

2170
01:28:49,590 --> 01:28:48,800
of things

2171
01:28:51,189 --> 01:28:49,600
um

2172
01:28:52,870 --> 01:28:51,199
we we just

2173
01:28:54,950 --> 01:28:52,880
we don't simply know yet we don't have

2174
01:28:56,709 --> 01:28:54,960
enough information or data and i don't

2175
01:28:58,950 --> 01:28:56,719
know what i don't want to do is mislead

2176
01:29:00,229 --> 01:28:58,960
anybody sure if i offer my opinion it's

2177
01:29:01,510 --> 01:29:00,239
even things that i may have heard it

2178
01:29:04,470 --> 01:29:01,520
doesn't necessarily mean that they're

2179
01:29:05,990 --> 01:29:04,480
correct so i'm i'm going to abstain if

2180
01:29:07,430 --> 01:29:06,000
you will from from

2181
01:29:08,950 --> 01:29:07,440
answering that question

2182
01:29:11,270 --> 01:29:08,960
you know the community wants to know

2183
01:29:13,350 --> 01:29:11,280
what you know you know and i respect

2184
01:29:16,470 --> 01:29:13,360
that a lot the other point is

2185
01:29:19,430 --> 01:29:16,480
uh it's their opportunity i'm a conduit

2186
01:29:20,390 --> 01:29:19,440
right and and can jimmy i just been

2187
01:29:22,870 --> 01:29:20,400
wondering

2188
01:29:25,830 --> 01:29:22,880
how many races have been visiting uh

2189
01:29:27,590 --> 01:29:25,840
earth and and what does lou know

2190
01:29:29,750 --> 01:29:27,600
and and that's where it's at i have to

2191
01:29:32,390 --> 01:29:29,760
ask and i think it's a great question

2192
01:29:33,990 --> 01:29:32,400
yeah it is it is a great question um but

2193
01:29:35,430 --> 01:29:34,000
then again you know we very quickly

2194
01:29:37,669 --> 01:29:35,440
start running down the rabbit hole of

2195
01:29:39,910 --> 01:29:37,679
conjecture and all of a sudden people

2196
01:29:41,350 --> 01:29:39,920
start telling you oh there's nine races

2197
01:29:42,790 --> 01:29:41,360
and this is what they look like this is

2198
01:29:44,470 --> 01:29:42,800
what they want this is what they said

2199
01:29:45,270 --> 01:29:44,480
well first of all look you know okay

2200
01:29:47,430 --> 01:29:45,280
that's

2201
01:29:49,110 --> 01:29:47,440
sounds great but you don't really know

2202
01:29:51,110 --> 01:29:49,120
let's face it you know you're hearing

2203
01:29:53,830 --> 01:29:51,120
this second hand third hand fifth hand a

2204
01:29:54,790 --> 01:29:53,840
thousandth hand uh you don't really know

2205
01:29:58,390 --> 01:29:54,800
and so

2206
01:29:59,510 --> 01:29:58,400
um same goes with me i don't really know

2207
01:30:01,270 --> 01:29:59,520
do you think

2208
01:30:05,270 --> 01:30:01,280
okay now

2209
01:30:08,629 --> 01:30:05,280
do you think that an agency like the cia

2210
01:30:10,709 --> 01:30:08,639
i doubt that the nsa of the nro but

2211
01:30:12,470 --> 01:30:10,719
would be sitting on this type of

2212
01:30:13,830 --> 01:30:12,480
information here's how someone like the

2213
01:30:15,350 --> 01:30:13,840
cia would look at this question they're

2214
01:30:17,030 --> 01:30:15,360
not going to say how many races are out

2215
01:30:18,550 --> 01:30:17,040
there they're going to say

2216
01:30:20,790 --> 01:30:18,560
what are the different type of vehicles

2217
01:30:21,750 --> 01:30:20,800
we have observed what is their shape

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what is their performance

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characteristics what is their utility

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and based off that information

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are they different occupants right and

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if so how many so that's that's how you

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01:30:34,550 --> 01:30:32,960
approach that question

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from uh from a more practical

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01:30:37,350 --> 01:30:36,080
perspective from a national security

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perspective you don't just come out and

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say well how many races are there well

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okay let's let's first you know tackle

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the problem of of of you know actual

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nuts and bolts what are we dealing with

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you know are they from different places

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and different purposes and and different

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performance characteristics so that's

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that's how you have that conversation it

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01:30:59,350 --> 01:30:56,320
sounds like you've had this conversation

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with someone in the cia

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i can't go there let's take our break

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let's take our break right here this is

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fade to black our guest tonight lou

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elizondo i'm your host jimmy church

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welcome back fade to block i'm your host

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jimmy church

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01:36:05,350 --> 01:36:03,840
tonight lou elizondo is with us

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01:36:07,109 --> 01:36:05,360
and i'm just going to keep the

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01:36:11,030 --> 01:36:07,119
conversation going in the same direction

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01:36:17,189 --> 01:36:14,390
got another question from social media

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01:36:20,229 --> 01:36:17,199
lou elizondo bigfoot yes or no do you go

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01:36:22,790 --> 01:36:20,239
squatching have you been swatching yet

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01:36:25,189 --> 01:36:22,800
um no there's been times where i've been

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01:36:27,750 --> 01:36:25,199
confused as a squatch um

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01:36:30,149 --> 01:36:27,760
you know if i don't uh shave and i wind

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01:36:33,270 --> 01:36:30,159
up walking on the beach i guess but uh

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01:36:34,149 --> 01:36:33,280
in in seriousness no i i i have no idea

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01:36:36,149 --> 01:36:34,159
um

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01:36:37,750 --> 01:36:36,159
you know cryptozoology is something

2342
01:36:39,030 --> 01:36:37,760
that's obviously very interesting and

2343
01:36:40,950 --> 01:36:39,040
fascinating

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01:36:42,709 --> 01:36:40,960
but i don't i don't have the expertise

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01:36:44,790 --> 01:36:42,719
to even begin to to this i mean is it

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01:36:46,550 --> 01:36:44,800
possible that that there's a species out

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01:36:48,470 --> 01:36:46,560
there sure we find new species all the

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01:36:49,910 --> 01:36:48,480
time you know every week new species are

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01:36:51,990 --> 01:36:49,920
being discovered

2350
01:36:54,629 --> 01:36:52,000
species that we thought were long gone

2351
01:36:55,830 --> 01:36:54,639
turn up to be actually thriving and and

2352
01:36:57,830 --> 01:36:55,840
quite alive

2353
01:37:00,229 --> 01:36:57,840
um is it possible there is some sort of

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01:37:03,109 --> 01:37:00,239
bipedal you know large

2355
01:37:05,990 --> 01:37:03,119
ape type uh creature out there

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01:37:07,910 --> 01:37:06,000
sure you know i i will tell you that

2357
01:37:09,189 --> 01:37:07,920
some colleagues of mine during the asap

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01:37:11,270 --> 01:37:09,199
program one of the things they were

2359
01:37:12,629 --> 01:37:11,280
looking at was was that believe it or

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01:37:15,270 --> 01:37:12,639
not um

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01:37:16,629 --> 01:37:15,280
but you know i i wasn't really an asap

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01:37:18,149 --> 01:37:16,639
guy so you'd probably have to have that

2363
01:37:20,629 --> 01:37:18,159
conversation with with one of those

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01:37:23,350 --> 01:37:20,639
folks yeah i i haven't i haven't had a

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01:37:25,590 --> 01:37:23,360
bigfoot experience but the squatching

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01:37:27,910 --> 01:37:25,600
part of it camping going out causing

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01:37:29,750 --> 01:37:27,920
trouble being a rebel that that part of

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01:37:32,070 --> 01:37:29,760
it's pretty fun and then if something

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01:37:33,750 --> 01:37:32,080
else happens whatever yeah drink a beer

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01:37:35,189 --> 01:37:33,760
and go out with a with a with a rifle in

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01:37:36,709 --> 01:37:35,199
the middle of the night with some binos

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01:37:39,270 --> 01:37:36,719
and night vision that's something

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01:37:41,830 --> 01:37:39,280
that's what i'm talking about

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01:37:42,709 --> 01:37:41,840
i don't know about the rifle part but uh

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01:37:44,790 --> 01:37:42,719
uh

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01:37:46,709 --> 01:37:44,800
bigfoot would take that and smack you

2377
01:37:49,510 --> 01:37:46,719
upside the head with it probably pretty

2378
01:37:51,270 --> 01:37:49,520
quickly okay let's uh let's let's swing

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01:37:52,229 --> 01:37:51,280
things over to

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01:37:57,830 --> 01:37:52,239
uh

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01:37:59,750 --> 01:37:57,840
dodging and

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01:38:03,669 --> 01:37:59,760
uh specifically

2383
01:38:06,070 --> 01:38:03,679
it seems that the air force um and we've

2384
01:38:07,270 --> 01:38:06,080
been talking about it as a community

2385
01:38:10,310 --> 01:38:07,280
has uh

2386
01:38:11,750 --> 01:38:10,320
has been a wall uh chris mellon wrote an

2387
01:38:13,510 --> 01:38:11,760
excellent article that was on the

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01:38:16,390 --> 01:38:13,520
debrief last week

2389
01:38:19,109 --> 01:38:16,400
and uh or has it been two weeks now uh

2390
01:38:20,709 --> 01:38:19,119
february third i think yeah so it's uh

2391
01:38:23,189 --> 01:38:20,719
approaching two weeks

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01:38:26,070 --> 01:38:23,199
um and it's an issue that it has been

2393
01:38:27,109 --> 01:38:26,080
glaringly out front

2394
01:38:30,790 --> 01:38:27,119
and

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01:38:33,510 --> 01:38:30,800
on

2396
01:38:36,070 --> 01:38:33,520
and and discuss this publicly and this

2397
01:38:38,950 --> 01:38:36,080
was released while you guys are in

2398
01:38:40,149 --> 01:38:38,960
washington dealing with the issue

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01:38:43,270 --> 01:38:40,159
um

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01:38:44,790 --> 01:38:43,280
and and i thought to myself and this is

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01:38:45,910 --> 01:38:44,800
the question

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01:38:46,950 --> 01:38:45,920
um

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01:38:50,310 --> 01:38:46,960
is it

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01:38:51,750 --> 01:38:50,320
force

2405
01:38:53,830 --> 01:38:51,760
or is it just going to make the air

2406
01:38:55,030 --> 01:38:53,840
force angry and cause them to retreat

2407
01:38:56,709 --> 01:38:55,040
further

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01:38:59,430 --> 01:38:56,719
well i'm certain it's going to cause

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01:39:00,550 --> 01:38:59,440
them to to be a little angry um but

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01:39:02,550 --> 01:39:00,560
frankly i don't

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01:39:04,390 --> 01:39:02,560
really give a damn and now that is chris

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01:39:05,270 --> 01:39:04,400
um they need to do their job

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01:39:06,950 --> 01:39:05,280
um

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01:39:08,390 --> 01:39:06,960
secretary kendall came out a couple

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01:39:10,870 --> 01:39:08,400
months ago for the record and said yeah

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01:39:12,790 --> 01:39:10,880
we know these things are real and

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01:39:15,350 --> 01:39:12,800
but we don't consider them a priority

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01:39:17,030 --> 01:39:15,360
because uh we we don't know their origin

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01:39:19,510 --> 01:39:17,040
and we can't confirm if they're a threat

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01:39:21,430 --> 01:39:19,520
well as i've said before that's like a a

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01:39:23,030 --> 01:39:21,440
nuclear submarine popping out of the

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01:39:25,270 --> 01:39:23,040
potomac but because it doesn't have an

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01:39:27,109 --> 01:39:25,280
american flag or a russian flag or a

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01:39:28,629 --> 01:39:27,119
north korean flag on it we're just going

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01:39:30,709 --> 01:39:28,639
to ignore and say yeah we don't care

2426
01:39:32,470 --> 01:39:30,719
because we have no idea whose it is

2427
01:39:34,310 --> 01:39:32,480
that doesn't make sense

2428
01:39:36,390 --> 01:39:34,320
you know air domain awareness is the

2429
01:39:38,470 --> 01:39:36,400
responsibility of the air force

2430
01:39:40,870 --> 01:39:38,480
there's a national intelligence manager

2431
01:39:42,470 --> 01:39:40,880
the nim for aviation that would probably

2432
01:39:44,229 --> 01:39:42,480
beg to differ

2433
01:39:46,070 --> 01:39:44,239
that that the air force probably should

2434
01:39:47,430 --> 01:39:46,080
care about this topic

2435
01:39:49,990 --> 01:39:47,440
because it's in our skies and they're

2436
01:39:52,550 --> 01:39:50,000
responsible for for defending our our

2437
01:39:54,629 --> 01:39:52,560
controlled u.s airspace um both here and

2438
01:39:55,990 --> 01:39:54,639
abroad uh look the air force is full of

2439
01:39:57,270 --> 01:39:56,000
fine people i've had the opportunity to

2440
01:39:59,109 --> 01:39:57,280
work with many of them especially air

2441
01:40:00,790 --> 01:39:59,119
force osi now of course when you should

2442
01:40:03,270 --> 01:40:00,800
say that people cringe and say yeah air

2443
01:40:04,149 --> 01:40:03,280
force osi look these are great people

2444
01:40:05,270 --> 01:40:04,159
these are people they're good

2445
01:40:07,109 --> 01:40:05,280
investigators they're shrewd

2446
01:40:09,189 --> 01:40:07,119
investigators and i have the utmost

2447
01:40:10,950 --> 01:40:09,199
respect for them it's not their fault

2448
01:40:12,629 --> 01:40:10,960
the fault is coming from much much

2449
01:40:14,790 --> 01:40:12,639
higher within air force leadership now

2450
01:40:16,149 --> 01:40:14,800
look there's really three options on on

2451
01:40:18,950 --> 01:40:16,159
the air force

2452
01:40:19,830 --> 01:40:18,960
air force's position on this topic it's

2453
01:40:21,510 --> 01:40:19,840
either

2454
01:40:23,030 --> 01:40:21,520
they know

2455
01:40:24,390 --> 01:40:23,040
option b is

2456
01:40:27,189 --> 01:40:24,400
they don't know

2457
01:40:29,109 --> 01:40:27,199
or option c is they don't care

2458
01:40:32,550 --> 01:40:29,119
but either one of those options is not a

2459
01:40:33,830 --> 01:40:32,560
very good option to have and so i i

2460
01:40:35,350 --> 01:40:33,840
suspect there's a reason why

2461
01:40:37,189 --> 01:40:35,360
historically the air force has not want

2462
01:40:38,149 --> 01:40:37,199
to play into this this topic in this

2463
01:40:40,229 --> 01:40:38,159
arena

2464
01:40:42,310 --> 01:40:40,239
first of all it would be a gross sign of

2465
01:40:45,430 --> 01:40:42,320
incompetence if it turns out that

2466
01:40:46,870 --> 01:40:45,440
uh all along the air force has has been

2467
01:40:49,109 --> 01:40:46,880
tracking these things but hasn't been

2468
01:40:50,629 --> 01:40:49,119
telling anybody because it doesn't think

2469
01:40:52,470 --> 01:40:50,639
it's important

2470
01:40:53,910 --> 01:40:52,480
another issue is that during blue book

2471
01:40:55,830 --> 01:40:53,920
you know they really took a lot of heat

2472
01:40:57,350 --> 01:40:55,840
and they they were put a lot of pressure

2473
01:40:59,030 --> 01:40:57,360
to close down blue book and say that

2474
01:41:01,030 --> 01:40:59,040
there's nothing to see here

2475
01:41:02,390 --> 01:41:01,040
now it turns out that there is you know

2476
01:41:03,910 --> 01:41:02,400
how do you back yourself out of that

2477
01:41:05,270 --> 01:41:03,920
corner after telling congress and the

2478
01:41:07,590 --> 01:41:05,280
american people there's nothing to see

2479
01:41:09,270 --> 01:41:07,600
here officially and you can trust us and

2480
01:41:10,950 --> 01:41:09,280
it turns out well actually you know what

2481
01:41:13,270 --> 01:41:10,960
there is a lot to see here

2482
01:41:15,750 --> 01:41:13,280
um that's problematic

2483
01:41:17,350 --> 01:41:15,760
bureaucratically and also from from a

2484
01:41:19,350 --> 01:41:17,360
military perspective hierarchical

2485
01:41:22,390 --> 01:41:19,360
perspective

2486
01:41:23,910 --> 01:41:22,400
there are probably some gatekeepers that

2487
01:41:25,189 --> 01:41:23,920
you know if i if i knew better we're

2488
01:41:26,229 --> 01:41:25,199
probably getting a little bit nervous

2489
01:41:28,229 --> 01:41:26,239
right now

2490
01:41:29,750 --> 01:41:28,239
because the conversation's happening and

2491
01:41:32,390 --> 01:41:29,760
there is an expectation for the air

2492
01:41:34,629 --> 01:41:32,400
force to cooperate

2493
01:41:36,950 --> 01:41:34,639
you know i'm very loyal to my country

2494
01:41:39,030 --> 01:41:36,960
i'm very loyal to my to my department of

2495
01:41:40,950 --> 01:41:39,040
defense and the brave men and women that

2496
01:41:43,910 --> 01:41:40,960
serve this country every day

2497
01:41:45,350 --> 01:41:43,920
um but the bureaucracy i'm not you know

2498
01:41:46,709 --> 01:41:45,360
i took took an oath to defend this

2499
01:41:48,629 --> 01:41:46,719
country from all enemies foreign and

2500
01:41:50,709 --> 01:41:48,639
domestic and defend the american people

2501
01:41:52,629 --> 01:41:50,719
in the constitution i did not take that

2502
01:41:54,470 --> 01:41:52,639
oath to defend a bureaucracy

2503
01:41:56,950 --> 01:41:54,480
and in fact the bureaucracy here winds

2504
01:41:58,709 --> 01:41:56,960
up being being one of the problems that

2505
01:42:00,790 --> 01:41:58,719
we're facing and so chris wrote that

2506
01:42:02,790 --> 01:42:00,800
letter in part because of the

2507
01:42:04,229 --> 01:42:02,800
overwhelming amount of frustration we've

2508
01:42:05,910 --> 01:42:04,239
been dealing with

2509
01:42:08,149 --> 01:42:05,920
in trying to deal with the air force

2510
01:42:09,350 --> 01:42:08,159
look we know for a matter of fact that

2511
01:42:11,510 --> 01:42:09,360
the air force has had their own

2512
01:42:14,229 --> 01:42:11,520
incidents why isn't that getting

2513
01:42:16,310 --> 01:42:14,239
reported to congress it's not a choice

2514
01:42:18,870 --> 01:42:16,320
it doesn't matter what you think air

2515
01:42:21,030 --> 01:42:18,880
force what matters is what the people

2516
01:42:22,709 --> 01:42:21,040
deserve and what the people expect and

2517
01:42:24,870 --> 01:42:22,719
what congress expects

2518
01:42:27,510 --> 01:42:24,880
after all the air force works for us not

2519
01:42:29,430 --> 01:42:27,520
the other way around and if if someone

2520
01:42:31,750 --> 01:42:29,440
has forgotten that then they need to be

2521
01:42:34,070 --> 01:42:31,760
fired and someone else put in there that

2522
01:42:36,629 --> 01:42:34,080
that understands that and

2523
01:42:38,470 --> 01:42:36,639
um you know again it's not it's not my

2524
01:42:39,990 --> 01:42:38,480
frustration with the air force per se

2525
01:42:42,390 --> 01:42:40,000
because there's a lot of really good

2526
01:42:44,229 --> 01:42:42,400
people in the air force very competent

2527
01:42:45,830 --> 01:42:44,239
they want to do the right thing

2528
01:42:47,350 --> 01:42:45,840
it's it's the bureaucracy it's the same

2529
01:42:49,430 --> 01:42:47,360
bureaucracy i faced when i was in the

2530
01:42:50,310 --> 01:42:49,440
pentagon during atip

2531
01:42:52,149 --> 01:42:50,320
where

2532
01:42:54,950 --> 01:42:52,159
the system just didn't want to do

2533
01:42:56,790 --> 01:42:54,960
anything about it um so

2534
01:42:58,310 --> 01:42:56,800
so yeah there you have it

2535
01:43:00,470 --> 01:42:58,320
the uh

2536
01:43:03,590 --> 01:43:00,480
the conversation uh

2537
01:43:04,629 --> 01:43:03,600
kind of evolved into when it came to

2538
01:43:08,550 --> 01:43:04,639
why

2539
01:43:10,709 --> 01:43:08,560
the last few years

2540
01:43:12,550 --> 01:43:10,719
one of them that i feel that the air

2541
01:43:15,270 --> 01:43:12,560
force got a pass card

2542
01:43:17,910 --> 01:43:15,280
in that it was discussed that well look

2543
01:43:20,950 --> 01:43:17,920
the navy is is out there in in the

2544
01:43:22,550 --> 01:43:20,960
oceans they cover most of the world

2545
01:43:24,870 --> 01:43:22,560
they're going to see more they're going

2546
01:43:26,390 --> 01:43:24,880
to have more incidents and i think that

2547
01:43:29,189 --> 01:43:26,400
that's a pass card

2548
01:43:30,550 --> 01:43:29,199
in that the air force

2549
01:43:33,910 --> 01:43:30,560
should have

2550
01:43:36,550 --> 01:43:33,920
uh equal to or superior radar systems

2551
01:43:38,950 --> 01:43:36,560
both on the ground and on their aircraft

2552
01:43:40,629 --> 01:43:38,960
they've got the they should have some of

2553
01:43:42,950 --> 01:43:40,639
the best pilots in the world that's not

2554
01:43:46,470 --> 01:43:42,960
to say that top gun in the navy doesn't

2555
01:43:48,229 --> 01:43:46,480
but it's our frigging air force right so

2556
01:43:50,310 --> 01:43:48,239
there's no way

2557
01:43:52,709 --> 01:43:50,320
that they have inferior pilots that

2558
01:43:54,870 --> 01:43:52,719
don't know what to look at right that

2559
01:43:57,109 --> 01:43:54,880
they have inferior radar systems on

2560
01:43:59,669 --> 01:43:57,119
their planes and they're not detecting

2561
01:44:02,790 --> 01:43:59,679
these things that cannot be the case

2562
01:44:05,990 --> 01:44:02,800
and so i think that pass card

2563
01:44:07,750 --> 01:44:06,000
uh was issued was invalid when it was

2564
01:44:09,510 --> 01:44:07,760
issued

2565
01:44:11,270 --> 01:44:09,520
you're absolutely right i mean i i've

2566
01:44:13,590 --> 01:44:11,280
talked to air force pilots themselves

2567
01:44:15,990 --> 01:44:13,600
and we know of air force officers who

2568
01:44:17,590 --> 01:44:16,000
tried to report stuff to the task force

2569
01:44:19,590 --> 01:44:17,600
and were subsequently shut down by the

2570
01:44:20,470 --> 01:44:19,600
chain of command right you know and that

2571
01:44:22,390 --> 01:44:20,480
that that

2572
01:44:24,229 --> 01:44:22,400
flies in the face of the spirit of of

2573
01:44:25,910 --> 01:44:24,239
what congress is trying to do

2574
01:44:27,669 --> 01:44:25,920
right and and even even the department

2575
01:44:29,590 --> 01:44:27,679
of defense so

2576
01:44:32,310 --> 01:44:29,600
so there's a problem there's a systemic

2577
01:44:34,390 --> 01:44:32,320
problem that must be addressed um and

2578
01:44:35,669 --> 01:44:34,400
the bureaucracy must be must come to

2579
01:44:37,109 --> 01:44:35,679
heal on this

2580
01:44:38,709 --> 01:44:37,119
um

2581
01:44:40,709 --> 01:44:38,719
you know or there's going to be some

2582
01:44:43,350 --> 01:44:40,719
some some additional consequences i feel

2583
01:44:45,430 --> 01:44:43,360
uh regarding this topic um the air force

2584
01:44:47,910 --> 01:44:45,440
isn't doing itself any favors by by

2585
01:44:48,950 --> 01:44:47,920
keeping quiet on this at this point but

2586
01:44:50,470 --> 01:44:48,960
they don't want to tell the american

2587
01:44:52,790 --> 01:44:50,480
people fine but you damn well better

2588
01:44:54,229 --> 01:44:52,800
tell congress you know don't don't hide

2589
01:44:55,830 --> 01:44:54,239
this from congress and the secretary of

2590
01:44:57,830 --> 01:44:55,840
defense and the dni because at that

2591
01:44:59,270 --> 01:44:57,840
point we're dealing with a rogue element

2592
01:45:00,470 --> 01:44:59,280
and you don't want to even have that

2593
01:45:02,310 --> 01:45:00,480
conversation that's that's a

2594
01:45:04,390 --> 01:45:02,320
conversation we don't even want to start

2595
01:45:06,870 --> 01:45:04,400
going down that road well and you're

2596
01:45:09,109 --> 01:45:06,880
trying to navigate uh i would say the

2597
01:45:11,030 --> 01:45:09,119
halls of the pentagon without halls of

2598
01:45:12,950 --> 01:45:11,040
congress you're trying to navigate these

2599
01:45:14,149 --> 01:45:12,960
halls and these issues

2600
01:45:16,709 --> 01:45:14,159
and

2601
01:45:20,070 --> 01:45:16,719
are you seeing

2602
01:45:22,149 --> 01:45:20,080
that absence of the air force are you

2603
01:45:23,669 --> 01:45:22,159
know are you able to make the inroads

2604
01:45:25,350 --> 01:45:23,679
and the communication with every

2605
01:45:27,590 --> 01:45:25,360
everything else out there

2606
01:45:29,430 --> 01:45:27,600
but the air force you personally are you

2607
01:45:30,629 --> 01:45:29,440
seeing that

2608
01:45:35,510 --> 01:45:30,639
um

2609
01:45:37,750 --> 01:45:35,520
if i was joking with chris if i was ever

2610
01:45:40,390 --> 01:45:37,760
in congress i would haul their ass up so

2611
01:45:42,629 --> 01:45:40,400
fast you'd hear a sonic boom i would

2612
01:45:44,790 --> 01:45:42,639
i would have them come up there and say

2613
01:45:46,470 --> 01:45:44,800
all right you need to come correct let's

2614
01:45:47,669 --> 01:45:46,480
let's have a conversation because if not

2615
01:45:49,590 --> 01:45:47,679
the next conversation's gonna be in

2616
01:45:51,030 --> 01:45:49,600
front of american people so you know you

2617
01:45:52,470 --> 01:45:51,040
can decide how the conversation with me

2618
01:45:54,229 --> 01:45:52,480
or have it with the american people but

2619
01:45:56,830 --> 01:45:54,239
you're gonna have a conversation well

2620
01:45:59,750 --> 01:45:56,840
shouldn't rubio or

2621
01:46:01,030 --> 01:45:59,760
somebody uh specifically look at one of

2622
01:46:02,870 --> 01:46:01,040
the points

2623
01:46:04,950 --> 01:46:02,880
that chris made in this article and i

2624
01:46:07,189 --> 01:46:04,960
thought it was glaring

2625
01:46:09,750 --> 01:46:07,199
which is members of the air force were

2626
01:46:11,350 --> 01:46:09,760
in a secure chat room with the

2627
01:46:12,950 --> 01:46:11,360
department of defense

2628
01:46:15,590 --> 01:46:12,960
uh and the other branches of the

2629
01:46:19,430 --> 01:46:15,600
military a uap

2630
01:46:21,830 --> 01:46:19,440
chat room discussing this got caught by

2631
01:46:23,830 --> 01:46:21,840
the air force and we're told

2632
01:46:24,629 --> 01:46:23,840
not to go back to stay out of that chat

2633
01:46:26,790 --> 01:46:24,639
room

2634
01:46:28,870 --> 01:46:26,800
isn't that a question for the senate

2635
01:46:31,430 --> 01:46:28,880
intelligence committee and aim and the

2636
01:46:33,830 --> 01:46:31,440
department of defense and odni

2637
01:46:37,669 --> 01:46:33,840
why the air force uh

2638
01:46:39,750 --> 01:46:37,679
uh you know the command of the air force

2639
01:46:41,830 --> 01:46:39,760
chased their own personnel out of a

2640
01:46:43,910 --> 01:46:41,840
secure uap chat room

2641
01:46:45,189 --> 01:46:43,920
sure sure but even more scary is the

2642
01:46:46,470 --> 01:46:45,199
fact that now

2643
01:46:47,750 --> 01:46:46,480
some elements in the intelligence

2644
01:46:49,270 --> 01:46:47,760
community want to shut the chat room

2645
01:46:51,270 --> 01:46:49,280
down entirely saying there's not enough

2646
01:46:52,229 --> 01:46:51,280
money to fund it and they want to shut

2647
01:46:55,669 --> 01:46:52,239
it down

2648
01:46:59,750 --> 01:46:57,669
exactly it costs pennies it costs

2649
01:47:02,070 --> 01:46:59,760
pennies i i wish i could show your

2650
01:47:04,149 --> 01:47:02,080
audience your face when you said that

2651
01:47:05,669 --> 01:47:04,159
because that was exactly our our

2652
01:47:08,070 --> 01:47:05,679
reaction wait a minute you need to tell

2653
01:47:10,870 --> 01:47:08,080
me a collaborative space that you have

2654
01:47:12,790 --> 01:47:10,880
said is is is imperative for our

2655
01:47:14,950 --> 01:47:12,800
analysts in order to collaborate and get

2656
01:47:17,350 --> 01:47:14,960
alternative hypothesis it's it's

2657
01:47:19,430 --> 01:47:17,360
imperative to the ethos of our very

2658
01:47:20,950 --> 01:47:19,440
intelligence community you want to pull

2659
01:47:24,470 --> 01:47:20,960
the plug because there's not enough

2660
01:47:26,870 --> 01:47:24,480
money to to fund the chat room what

2661
01:47:28,790 --> 01:47:26,880
wait a minute i'm sorry

2662
01:47:30,950 --> 01:47:28,800
are we are we to the point now where

2663
01:47:33,590 --> 01:47:30,960
we're where that fundamentally broke i

2664
01:47:35,430 --> 01:47:33,600
don't think so um how about let's you

2665
01:47:36,950 --> 01:47:35,440
know buy a few less limousines for the

2666
01:47:39,590 --> 01:47:36,960
year for some of these

2667
01:47:41,030 --> 01:47:39,600
senior executives and uh you know let's

2668
01:47:42,790 --> 01:47:41,040
let's let's keep the chat room open and

2669
01:47:46,709 --> 01:47:42,800
alive how about that

2670
01:47:48,390 --> 01:47:46,719
the uh the other part of this uh with

2671
01:47:51,430 --> 01:47:48,400
what is going on

2672
01:47:54,470 --> 01:47:51,440
for chris to uh

2673
01:47:57,109 --> 01:47:54,480
deliberately start off his article

2674
01:47:58,310 --> 01:47:57,119
talking about technology and radar i

2675
01:48:00,149 --> 01:47:58,320
think was

2676
01:48:03,109 --> 01:48:00,159
was the way to go

2677
01:48:05,590 --> 01:48:03,119
right okay because there are reasons to

2678
01:48:08,149 --> 01:48:05,600
start there it may be

2679
01:48:09,830 --> 01:48:08,159
too dry and technical for some

2680
01:48:12,550 --> 01:48:09,840
but there was a method to the madness

2681
01:48:15,830 --> 01:48:12,560
the way that chris laid it out right

2682
01:48:19,189 --> 01:48:15,840
that radar data collected by the air

2683
01:48:21,669 --> 01:48:19,199
force is sitting out there somewhere

2684
01:48:24,390 --> 01:48:21,679
and by chris mentioning it we don't have

2685
01:48:25,669 --> 01:48:24,400
inferior radar systems it's the exact

2686
01:48:29,669 --> 01:48:25,679
opposite

2687
01:48:32,229 --> 01:48:29,679
where is this radar data is there a way

2688
01:48:34,310 --> 01:48:32,239
to get to it and do you expect the air

2689
01:48:35,510 --> 01:48:34,320
force to cooperate

2690
01:48:38,149 --> 01:48:35,520
um

2691
01:48:41,030 --> 01:48:38,159
i do expect that information at some

2692
01:48:43,510 --> 01:48:41,040
point to get to where it needs to go

2693
01:48:47,430 --> 01:48:43,520
if it's residing in in legacy systems or

2694
01:48:49,669 --> 01:48:47,440
whatever it may be wherever it may be

2695
01:48:53,189 --> 01:48:49,679
whether or not the air force does it

2696
01:48:55,270 --> 01:48:53,199
willingly or begrudgingly i don't know

2697
01:48:57,590 --> 01:48:55,280
again i i want to be very careful not to

2698
01:48:59,990 --> 01:48:57,600
disparage the entire air force

2699
01:49:02,950 --> 01:49:00,000
because it's not the entire air force

2700
01:49:03,669 --> 01:49:02,960
that's that's responsible it is a it is

2701
01:49:40,870 --> 01:49:03,679
a

2702
01:49:46,470 --> 01:49:40,880
in

2703
01:49:49,430 --> 01:49:46,480
that it appears navy pilots don't have

2704
01:49:51,510 --> 01:49:49,440
an issue with uh discussing this

2705
01:49:52,470 --> 01:49:51,520
we haven't heard from one air force

2706
01:49:53,830 --> 01:49:52,480
pilot

2707
01:49:58,229 --> 01:49:53,840
is that

2708
01:49:59,350 --> 01:49:58,239
that is taught in the air force from the

2709
01:50:01,109 --> 01:49:59,360
word go

2710
01:50:02,390 --> 01:50:01,119
what goes on in the air force stays in

2711
01:50:04,149 --> 01:50:02,400
the air force

2712
01:50:05,910 --> 01:50:04,159
yeah that's a great question isn't it

2713
01:50:06,790 --> 01:50:05,920
why isn't the air force coming out and

2714
01:50:08,790 --> 01:50:06,800
why

2715
01:50:10,870 --> 01:50:08,800
haven't air force pilots come out look

2716
01:50:13,109 --> 01:50:10,880
when the when the navy pilots came out

2717
01:50:15,189 --> 01:50:13,119
um you know kudos to the navy because

2718
01:50:17,270 --> 01:50:15,199
the pilots weren't punished in fact the

2719
01:50:19,030 --> 01:50:17,280
navy facilitated them going up to

2720
01:50:21,270 --> 01:50:19,040
congress and and briefing congress i

2721
01:50:22,629 --> 01:50:21,280
would have traveled and tdy and i would

2722
01:50:24,709 --> 01:50:22,639
agree no

2723
01:50:27,270 --> 01:50:24,719
go ahead i said i would agree

2724
01:50:28,870 --> 01:50:27,280
yeah major kudos to to the navy for

2725
01:50:30,790 --> 01:50:28,880
doing that and being forward leaning and

2726
01:50:32,870 --> 01:50:30,800
i think that's why the navy right now is

2727
01:50:35,189 --> 01:50:32,880
enjoying a certain degree of grace

2728
01:50:38,149 --> 01:50:35,199
because they have been so so forthcoming

2729
01:50:40,390 --> 01:50:38,159
um the air force you know should should

2730
01:50:41,830 --> 01:50:40,400
learn from that if i was the air force

2731
01:50:43,750 --> 01:50:41,840
right now i'd probably be having some

2732
01:50:44,629 --> 01:50:43,760
conversations with the navy saying hey

2733
01:50:45,750 --> 01:50:44,639
um

2734
01:50:47,430 --> 01:50:45,760
you know why don't you help us back out

2735
01:50:50,870 --> 01:50:47,440
of this corner because we want we want

2736
01:50:55,109 --> 01:50:50,880
to we want to do what you just did

2737
01:50:57,510 --> 01:50:55,119
well six six months ago uh when the navy

2738
01:50:59,669 --> 01:50:57,520
did their little really the navy the air

2739
01:51:01,990 --> 01:50:59,679
force did their little release you know

2740
01:51:05,669 --> 01:51:02,000
okay we've got systems in place now for

2741
01:51:09,750 --> 01:51:05,679
reporting and uh and and logistics there

2742
01:51:13,030 --> 01:51:09,760
for pilots to go ahead and submit and we

2743
01:51:14,709 --> 01:51:13,040
will be compiling reports for you it's

2744
01:51:19,030 --> 01:51:14,719
all good

2745
01:51:22,470 --> 01:51:20,870
yeah you're right

2746
01:51:24,870 --> 01:51:22,480
what happened where are they you know

2747
01:51:27,270 --> 01:51:24,880
i'm i am not aware of any air force

2748
01:51:28,310 --> 01:51:27,280
regulation that's been promulgated

2749
01:51:30,149 --> 01:51:28,320
today

2750
01:51:32,870 --> 01:51:30,159
about this topic i could be wrong but i

2751
01:51:35,109 --> 01:51:32,880
i'm not aware of that um you know if

2752
01:51:37,350 --> 01:51:35,119
they've managed to to to pull one you

2753
01:51:38,149 --> 01:51:37,360
know out of out of a certain anatomical

2754
01:51:39,510 --> 01:51:38,159
place

2755
01:51:42,709 --> 01:51:39,520
of their body then great good on them

2756
01:51:43,430 --> 01:51:42,719
but i haven't seen seen that one yet um

2757
01:51:44,629 --> 01:51:43,440
so

2758
01:51:47,030 --> 01:51:44,639
i don't know what policy they're

2759
01:51:49,350 --> 01:51:47,040
discussing i don't know of any

2760
01:51:50,870 --> 01:51:49,360
uh directives that have been promulgated

2761
01:51:53,990 --> 01:51:50,880
to to to

2762
01:51:56,149 --> 01:51:54,000
airmen uh out in the field or air force

2763
01:51:57,669 --> 01:51:56,159
osi from an investigative perspective

2764
01:51:58,629 --> 01:51:57,679
that doesn't mean that they're not there

2765
01:51:59,990 --> 01:51:58,639
but

2766
01:52:01,669 --> 01:52:00,000
you know i

2767
01:52:04,390 --> 01:52:01,679
usually know those kind of things ahead

2768
01:52:06,550 --> 01:52:04,400
of time so i didn't i i'm not aware of

2769
01:52:09,910 --> 01:52:06,560
anything and so i you're right where's

2770
01:52:12,470 --> 01:52:09,920
the air force and all this now uh

2771
01:52:13,589 --> 01:52:12,480
specifically on this issue

2772
01:52:20,470 --> 01:52:13,599
in

2773
01:52:23,750 --> 01:52:20,480
co-authored amendment

2774
01:52:25,750 --> 01:52:23,760
uh there were many uh uh on both sides

2775
01:52:27,830 --> 01:52:25,760
of the aisle of participants in this

2776
01:52:29,990 --> 01:52:27,840
amendment in pushing this thing forward

2777
01:52:31,910 --> 01:52:30,000
but for the sake of argument right let's

2778
01:52:34,629 --> 01:52:31,920
just say jill abraham there's a few

2779
01:52:35,910 --> 01:52:34,639
points in there that were direct and one

2780
01:52:37,669 --> 01:52:35,920
of them

2781
01:52:38,870 --> 01:52:37,679
was about

2782
01:52:40,390 --> 01:52:38,880
crash

2783
01:52:45,430 --> 01:52:40,400
retrievals

2784
01:52:48,550 --> 01:52:45,440
of uaps and the technology that would be

2785
01:52:50,390 --> 01:52:48,560
recovered from said

2786
01:52:52,870 --> 01:52:50,400
crashed uap

2787
01:52:54,950 --> 01:52:52,880
and that this technology will be shared

2788
01:52:57,030 --> 01:52:54,960
and reported on

2789
01:52:58,790 --> 01:52:57,040
does that indicate to you

2790
01:53:01,510 --> 01:52:58,800
that

2791
01:53:03,910 --> 01:53:01,520
somebody knows of crashed retrievals in

2792
01:53:05,750 --> 01:53:03,920
the past why bring this up in such a

2793
01:53:07,350 --> 01:53:05,760
direct fashion

2794
01:53:09,430 --> 01:53:07,360
yeah i i'm not at liberty to have that

2795
01:53:13,109 --> 01:53:09,440
conversation i i cannot discuss anything

2796
01:53:14,470 --> 01:53:13,119
related to to the topic of cr

2797
01:53:17,750 --> 01:53:14,480
and uh

2798
01:53:21,189 --> 01:53:17,760
why but but but my question is why have

2799
01:53:23,109 --> 01:53:21,199
that included in the amendment unless

2800
01:53:24,470 --> 01:53:23,119
they know that it needs to be in the

2801
01:53:25,910 --> 01:53:24,480
amendment

2802
01:53:28,070 --> 01:53:25,920
yeah i mean that's a great question for

2803
01:53:29,669 --> 01:53:28,080
for senator gillibrand um you know i

2804
01:53:31,270 --> 01:53:29,679
suspect that probably

2805
01:53:33,910 --> 01:53:31,280
uh they want to get to the bottom of it

2806
01:53:35,669 --> 01:53:33,920
and you know kudos for them to kudos to

2807
01:53:36,790 --> 01:53:35,679
them for trying to trying to get to the

2808
01:53:39,350 --> 01:53:36,800
bottom of this

2809
01:53:41,109 --> 01:53:39,360
um but i certainly can't speak on behalf

2810
01:53:43,589 --> 01:53:41,119
of the senator and and i am absolutely

2811
01:53:45,510 --> 01:53:43,599
not at uh liberty to have

2812
01:53:47,990 --> 01:53:45,520
any type of discussion about that that

2813
01:53:49,990 --> 01:53:48,000
topic at this time okay how many crash

2814
01:53:51,910 --> 01:53:50,000
retrievals have we had say in the last

2815
01:53:53,589 --> 01:53:51,920
five years i can't can't have that

2816
01:53:55,510 --> 01:53:53,599
conversation i i'm not allowed to

2817
01:53:58,550 --> 01:53:55,520
discuss anything at all related to that

2818
01:54:01,510 --> 01:53:58,560
topic okay but you haven't said none

2819
01:54:02,629 --> 01:54:01,520
that's the key thing here

2820
01:54:04,229 --> 01:54:02,639
again i i

2821
01:54:06,790 --> 01:54:04,239
jimmy i hear you loud and clear but i

2822
01:54:10,390 --> 01:54:06,800
can't i can't i can't go there the next

2823
01:54:13,109 --> 01:54:10,400
point in uh the amendment that i found

2824
01:54:15,830 --> 01:54:13,119
extremely compelling lou

2825
01:54:17,669 --> 01:54:15,840
was the concern for the health of

2826
01:54:20,229 --> 01:54:17,679
anybody that would come in contact with

2827
01:54:22,149 --> 01:54:20,239
the uap again indicating

2828
01:54:24,870 --> 01:54:22,159
that this needs to be in there because

2829
01:54:27,030 --> 01:54:24,880
there have been situations in the past

2830
01:54:29,510 --> 01:54:27,040
like crash retrievals

2831
01:54:32,310 --> 01:54:29,520
so are you excited about that part of

2832
01:54:35,189 --> 01:54:32,320
the amendment and that we can focus on

2833
01:54:37,510 --> 01:54:35,199
anybody that could possibly be injured

2834
01:54:41,030 --> 01:54:37,520
and and have health issues because of

2835
01:54:42,790 --> 01:54:41,040
the uap contact it's no secret that we

2836
01:54:46,790 --> 01:54:42,800
were looking at the biological of

2837
01:54:49,589 --> 01:54:46,800
potential biological effects uh uap

2838
01:54:52,709 --> 01:54:49,599
might or might not have on on

2839
01:54:54,870 --> 01:54:52,719
on biological specimens um

2840
01:54:56,470 --> 01:54:54,880
i'm not going to elaborate too much i

2841
01:54:58,149 --> 01:54:56,480
think it's a great idea that we look at

2842
01:54:59,510 --> 01:54:58,159
that look we're dealing with something

2843
01:55:01,030 --> 01:54:59,520
with havana syndrome right now we have

2844
01:55:03,510 --> 01:55:01,040
no idea what's causing it or people are

2845
01:55:06,790 --> 01:55:03,520
getting sick and it's it's it's you know

2846
01:55:07,910 --> 01:55:06,800
it's uh it's a real real thing um we we

2847
01:55:10,070 --> 01:55:07,920
owe it

2848
01:55:11,830 --> 01:55:10,080
to our our

2849
01:55:14,470 --> 01:55:11,840
citizens to get to the bottom of it one

2850
01:55:15,910 --> 01:55:14,480
way or the other and if there are

2851
01:55:17,830 --> 01:55:15,920
if there's technology advanced

2852
01:55:19,589 --> 01:55:17,840
technology out there that could cause

2853
01:55:21,990 --> 01:55:19,599
some sort of negative biological

2854
01:55:22,950 --> 01:55:22,000
consequence or even positive you know

2855
01:55:26,390 --> 01:55:22,960
effect

2856
01:55:28,550 --> 01:55:26,400
uh we we need to know um it's it's

2857
01:55:30,310 --> 01:55:28,560
look anytime you deal with something i

2858
01:55:32,390 --> 01:55:30,320
often use the analogy if i go to an

2859
01:55:35,109 --> 01:55:32,400
airport i jump on a 737 there's no

2860
01:55:36,550 --> 01:55:35,119
threat but if i now jump onto the tarmac

2861
01:55:38,310 --> 01:55:36,560
and the runway and i get behind that

2862
01:55:40,310 --> 01:55:38,320
same jet while it's throttling up its

2863
01:55:41,830 --> 01:55:40,320
engines and i put my head right behind

2864
01:55:43,510 --> 01:55:41,840
the engine chances are there's going to

2865
01:55:44,550 --> 01:55:43,520
be consequences i'm going to go deaf i'm

2866
01:55:46,629 --> 01:55:44,560
going to get burned there's going to be

2867
01:55:48,390 --> 01:55:46,639
all sorts of problems it's not the

2868
01:55:50,470 --> 01:55:48,400
intent of the plane it's just that

2869
01:55:52,870 --> 01:55:50,480
there's consequences that that leads

2870
01:55:55,189 --> 01:55:52,880
into the conversation about

2871
01:55:57,669 --> 01:55:55,199
threat right is this technology a

2872
01:56:00,390 --> 01:55:57,679
potential threat to us and there's a

2873
01:56:01,910 --> 01:56:00,400
difference between the word threat

2874
01:56:05,669 --> 01:56:01,920
and and

2875
01:56:07,830 --> 01:56:05,679
the words hostile intent okay

2876
01:56:10,070 --> 01:56:07,840
if i get in my automobile

2877
01:56:13,109 --> 01:56:10,080
there's not really a threat if i jump

2878
01:56:14,950 --> 01:56:13,119
onto a a crowded highway

2879
01:56:17,030 --> 01:56:14,960
with a bicycle there's a real threat

2880
01:56:18,790 --> 01:56:17,040
right i could get run over and killed

2881
01:56:20,390 --> 01:56:18,800
um and i don't mean to say that in a

2882
01:56:22,229 --> 01:56:20,400
laughing or joking manner it's just i

2883
01:56:23,910 --> 01:56:22,239
mean everybody would recognize yeah

2884
01:56:25,990 --> 01:56:23,920
you're right that's a dumb thing to do

2885
01:56:27,669 --> 01:56:26,000
right you can get killed and the cars

2886
01:56:29,589 --> 01:56:27,679
don't there's no hostile intent there's

2887
01:56:31,750 --> 01:56:29,599
but there is a real threat

2888
01:56:33,030 --> 01:56:31,760
so we need to figure out are there any

2889
01:56:34,870 --> 01:56:33,040
type of

2890
01:56:36,470 --> 01:56:34,880
biological

2891
01:56:38,550 --> 01:56:36,480
that you can measure quantify and

2892
01:56:39,669 --> 01:56:38,560
qualify you know look at the morphology

2893
01:56:42,950 --> 01:56:39,679
of something

2894
01:56:45,430 --> 01:56:42,960
that that helps us look at um

2895
01:56:47,669 --> 01:56:45,440
uh the effect on a biological system and

2896
01:56:49,030 --> 01:56:47,679
can you learn from that right can you

2897
01:56:51,270 --> 01:56:49,040
can you look at the biological

2898
01:56:53,910 --> 01:56:51,280
consequence and say yes that's that's

2899
01:56:54,629 --> 01:56:53,920
caused by radiation or yes that's caused

2900
01:56:56,550 --> 01:56:54,639
by

2901
01:56:58,390 --> 01:56:56,560
high frequency electromagnetic

2902
01:56:59,990 --> 01:56:58,400
ammunitions or that's caused by you know

2903
01:57:02,149 --> 01:57:00,000
look when the early days when radar was

2904
01:57:04,470 --> 01:57:02,159
first being invented we would put the

2905
01:57:06,550 --> 01:57:04,480
gis and put their food behind the radar

2906
01:57:08,709 --> 01:57:06,560
system to warm their food they didn't

2907
01:57:10,149 --> 01:57:08,719
have any understanding that microwaves

2908
01:57:12,470 --> 01:57:10,159
were coming out from the back of that

2909
01:57:14,790 --> 01:57:12,480
thing and and you know could have could

2910
01:57:16,790 --> 01:57:14,800
could could fry you uh they just looked

2911
01:57:18,149 --> 01:57:16,800
at it as an interesting curiosity hey

2912
01:57:20,629 --> 01:57:18,159
look i can put my cup of coffee behind

2913
01:57:22,709 --> 01:57:20,639
the radar you know presto a minute later

2914
01:57:25,109 --> 01:57:22,719
have hot coffee um yeah that's doing

2915
01:57:27,189 --> 01:57:25,119
that for a reason because the the the

2916
01:57:29,750 --> 01:57:27,199
microwaves are are exciting the water

2917
01:57:31,750 --> 01:57:29,760
molecules in in the beverage in the

2918
01:57:33,189 --> 01:57:31,760
liquid and creating friction internal

2919
01:57:34,950 --> 01:57:33,199
friction and heating

2920
01:57:36,870 --> 01:57:34,960
of the coffee well that does it the same

2921
01:57:38,870 --> 01:57:36,880
thing to your body that's why you don't

2922
01:57:40,229 --> 01:57:38,880
want to put your your hand or your head

2923
01:57:42,870 --> 01:57:40,239
or any part of your body inside of a

2924
01:57:45,750 --> 01:57:42,880
microwave oven when it's on because bad

2925
01:57:48,310 --> 01:57:45,760
things will happen it's not necessarily

2926
01:57:50,470 --> 01:57:48,320
hostile intent it's just a potential

2927
01:57:52,709 --> 01:57:50,480
threat of the technology

2928
01:57:54,790 --> 01:57:52,719
and you being exposed to it

2929
01:57:56,629 --> 01:57:54,800
have you uh we've got two minutes before

2930
01:57:57,910 --> 01:57:56,639
the break then we'll carry on

2931
01:58:01,830 --> 01:57:57,920
um

2932
01:58:02,870 --> 01:58:01,840
who is piloting these craft or are these

2933
01:58:05,350 --> 01:58:02,880
craft

2934
01:58:06,870 --> 01:58:05,360
just remotely controlled by an

2935
01:58:08,790 --> 01:58:06,880
intelligence

2936
01:58:10,310 --> 01:58:08,800
out there or do you think that there is

2937
01:58:12,790 --> 01:58:10,320
an actual

2938
01:58:15,430 --> 01:58:12,800
physical little dude in there with a

2939
01:58:17,350 --> 01:58:15,440
control stick

2940
01:58:19,510 --> 01:58:17,360
well they are certainly intelligently

2941
01:58:21,430 --> 01:58:19,520
controlled that we do know

2942
01:58:23,990 --> 01:58:21,440
whether or not they're occupied or

2943
01:58:26,229 --> 01:58:24,000
unmanned or anything like that

2944
01:58:27,830 --> 01:58:26,239
there's a lot of conversation going on

2945
01:58:28,790 --> 01:58:27,840
about that topic

2946
01:58:30,390 --> 01:58:28,800
um

2947
01:58:32,950 --> 01:58:30,400
you know we look at things we we're

2948
01:58:34,790 --> 01:58:32,960
we're now in a state technologically

2949
01:58:36,470 --> 01:58:34,800
speaking if we don't have to put

2950
01:58:38,310 --> 01:58:36,480
somebody in harm's way we don't and

2951
01:58:40,229 --> 01:58:38,320
that's why we have certain

2952
01:58:41,910 --> 01:58:40,239
reconnaissance capabilities that can

2953
01:58:43,270 --> 01:58:41,920
loiter for a long time we can put him

2954
01:58:44,870 --> 01:58:43,280
into dangerous spots and not have to

2955
01:58:46,950 --> 01:58:44,880
worry about putting a human being into

2956
01:58:48,310 --> 01:58:46,960
that situation but then there's other

2957
01:58:51,109 --> 01:58:48,320
missions where we absolutely have to

2958
01:58:52,550 --> 01:58:51,119
have a person go right so look at look

2959
01:58:53,910 --> 01:58:52,560
at going to the moon yeah we can send

2960
01:58:55,109 --> 01:58:53,920
probes all day long but at the end of

2961
01:58:56,390 --> 01:58:55,119
the day

2962
01:58:59,189 --> 01:58:56,400
we want to send a human being to the

2963
01:59:00,229 --> 01:58:59,199
moon and send them back to the moon um

2964
01:59:01,830 --> 01:59:00,239
and so

2965
01:59:04,790 --> 01:59:01,840
i you know you're asking me a question

2966
01:59:06,790 --> 01:59:04,800
that i really i can't answer but allow

2967
01:59:08,390 --> 01:59:06,800
me to at least you know

2968
01:59:10,629 --> 01:59:08,400
expand upon that question because it's

2969
01:59:12,390 --> 01:59:10,639
not just a simple you know hey they're

2970
01:59:13,350 --> 01:59:12,400
an occupant or not

2971
01:59:14,390 --> 01:59:13,360
um

2972
01:59:15,910 --> 01:59:14,400
you know there's all sorts of

2973
01:59:16,790 --> 01:59:15,920
possibilities there you know these

2974
01:59:18,149 --> 01:59:16,800
things

2975
01:59:21,189 --> 01:59:18,159
controlled through some sort of

2976
01:59:22,950 --> 01:59:21,199
artificial intelligence or or hive you

2977
01:59:25,189 --> 01:59:22,960
know capability if you will like we have

2978
01:59:28,629 --> 01:59:25,199
with drones sometimes or are these

2979
01:59:31,189 --> 01:59:28,639
things um is there an occupant inside um

2980
01:59:32,550 --> 01:59:31,199
or is it completely autonomous i mean

2981
01:59:34,149 --> 01:59:32,560
there's these are all great questions

2982
01:59:37,189 --> 01:59:34,159
that we're trying to figure out

2983
01:59:39,910 --> 01:59:37,199
let's take our break right here and uh

2984
01:59:41,589 --> 01:59:39,920
when we come back i'll give you

2985
01:59:44,629 --> 01:59:41,599
the heads up lou i would like to talk

2986
01:59:45,510 --> 01:59:44,639
about avi loeb and the civilian efforts

2987
01:59:52,550 --> 01:59:45,520
uh

2988
01:59:55,830 --> 01:59:52,560
this puzzle that is moving things

2989
01:59:58,470 --> 01:59:55,840
forward into uh 2022 i'm your host jimmy

2990
02:00:00,550 --> 01:59:58,480
church i guess tonight lou elizondo this

2991
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is faded black stay with us we'll be

2992
02:00:06,940 --> 02:00:02,290
right back after this short break

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i love ponies i really love ponies i'm

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i couldn't stay sane without pulling

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why fade to black

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this is fade to black with jimmy church

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on the game changer radio network

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[Music]

3097
02:05:12,310 --> 02:05:09,040
all right welcome back fade to black i

3098
02:05:17,830 --> 02:05:15,430
tonight lou elizondo is with us i just

3099
02:05:22,390 --> 02:05:17,840
spent a minute over in the chat loop

3100
02:05:27,189 --> 02:05:23,430
man

3101
02:05:29,109 --> 02:05:27,199
anymore i'm getting cranky in my old age

3102
02:05:31,189 --> 02:05:29,119
man i just uh

3103
02:05:35,830 --> 02:05:31,199
yeah i just pop off at the mouth oh

3104
02:05:38,709 --> 02:05:35,840
lou's got his hat on backwards oh crap

3105
02:05:41,750 --> 02:05:38,719
oh crap you getting serious on me now

3106
02:05:43,270 --> 02:05:41,760
no i'm just uh i decided to you know

3107
02:05:45,030 --> 02:05:43,280
switch it up a bit you know there's

3108
02:05:47,589 --> 02:05:45,040
there's there are a lot of haters man it

3109
02:05:48,950 --> 02:05:47,599
is it's kind of sad a little pathetic

3110
02:05:51,589 --> 02:05:48,960
sometimes

3111
02:05:53,510 --> 02:05:51,599
my wife my poor wife has to endure it

3112
02:05:55,510 --> 02:05:53,520
the most because she knows she she helps

3113
02:05:57,750 --> 02:05:55,520
me with my social media i'm kind of a

3114
02:06:00,390 --> 02:05:57,760
kind of a i guess an old dog can't teach

3115
02:06:02,470 --> 02:06:00,400
new tricks kind of guy sure and um you

3116
02:06:04,390 --> 02:06:02,480
know it's like it's like whack-a-mole

3117
02:06:05,589 --> 02:06:04,400
because you know the moment

3118
02:06:09,910 --> 02:06:05,599
one

3119
02:06:10,870 --> 02:06:09,920
pops up and i'm pretty convinced that

3120
02:06:13,830 --> 02:06:10,880
like

3121
02:06:15,830 --> 02:06:13,840
99 of the haters in the universe are

3122
02:06:18,069 --> 02:06:15,840
really like just three people with a

3123
02:06:20,229 --> 02:06:18,079
bunch of fake names and fake handles

3124
02:06:21,750 --> 02:06:20,239
yeah you're right about that

3125
02:06:24,229 --> 02:06:21,760
you know what you know what i do i just

3126
02:06:27,270 --> 02:06:24,239
post pictures of my tennis shoes

3127
02:06:28,870 --> 02:06:27,280
yeah i'll comment on that but anything

3128
02:06:30,390 --> 02:06:28,880
else

3129
02:06:32,310 --> 02:06:30,400
you just just

3130
02:06:35,109 --> 02:06:32,320
all you're doing is is fanning the

3131
02:06:37,430 --> 02:06:35,119
flames and um

3132
02:06:39,270 --> 02:06:37,440
i'm only concerned you can't you can't

3133
02:06:40,709 --> 02:06:39,280
feed seagulls right you feed a seagull

3134
02:06:42,550 --> 02:06:40,719
at the beach and what happens more

3135
02:06:44,629 --> 02:06:42,560
seagulls come and more seagulls come and

3136
02:06:46,310 --> 02:06:44,639
they want ruining your picnic so

3137
02:06:48,470 --> 02:06:46,320
you know it's a shame but you can't you

3138
02:06:51,030 --> 02:06:48,480
just can't feed the seagulls well you

3139
02:06:54,709 --> 02:06:51,040
know and here's the thing you and i

3140
02:06:55,750 --> 02:06:54,719
uh i wish the community would learn

3141
02:06:59,189 --> 02:06:55,760
from

3142
02:07:00,870 --> 02:06:59,199
you and i in that we don't see

3143
02:07:03,750 --> 02:07:00,880
everything

3144
02:07:05,750 --> 02:07:03,760
the same you know in fact sometimes we

3145
02:07:06,790 --> 02:07:05,760
are on complete opposites but you know

3146
02:07:09,669 --> 02:07:06,800
what

3147
02:07:12,629 --> 02:07:09,679
uh we can have a discussion we can talk

3148
02:07:14,390 --> 02:07:12,639
about these things and we are concerned

3149
02:07:16,950 --> 02:07:14,400
about the same thing

3150
02:07:18,950 --> 02:07:16,960
our approach may be different but you

3151
02:07:21,030 --> 02:07:18,960
know what that's what this community is

3152
02:07:23,270 --> 02:07:21,040
all about yeah i'm going to give you an

3153
02:07:24,470 --> 02:07:23,280
example lou

3154
02:07:28,629 --> 02:07:24,480
when i go

3155
02:07:30,550 --> 02:07:28,639
we all grew up uh fourth of july fourth

3156
02:07:31,589 --> 02:07:30,560
of july rolls along you've got your

3157
02:07:35,350 --> 02:07:31,599
street

3158
02:07:36,390 --> 02:07:35,360
your neighborhood and you guys all got

3159
02:07:37,830 --> 02:07:36,400
together

3160
02:07:40,069 --> 02:07:37,840
and blew

3161
02:07:42,069 --> 02:07:40,079
blue up in front of your house

3162
02:07:44,069 --> 02:07:42,079
right and and you drink beer together

3163
02:07:47,109 --> 02:07:44,079
you cook together you celebrated

3164
02:07:49,669 --> 02:07:47,119
together and that is everybody that was

3165
02:07:52,069 --> 02:07:49,679
completely different on the street right

3166
02:07:53,589 --> 02:07:52,079
it didn't matter that's what makes this

3167
02:07:56,390 --> 02:07:53,599
country great

3168
02:07:58,629 --> 02:07:56,400
now it's suddenly today to have a

3169
02:08:02,149 --> 02:07:58,639
different opinion or to approach things

3170
02:08:05,510 --> 02:08:02,159
differently or whatever suddenly

3171
02:08:07,669 --> 02:08:05,520
you can't be trusted you're one of them

3172
02:08:09,750 --> 02:08:07,679
i just don't wait a minute here that's

3173
02:08:10,870 --> 02:08:09,760
not that's not what makes this country

3174
02:08:15,109 --> 02:08:10,880
great

3175
02:08:16,229 --> 02:08:15,119
democracy isn't it it's it's you know

3176
02:08:20,069 --> 02:08:16,239
it's uh

3177
02:08:21,669 --> 02:08:20,079
should only think what i think and

3178
02:08:23,510 --> 02:08:21,679
anything that anybody that disagrees

3179
02:08:26,310 --> 02:08:23,520
with me is is you know a psyop or

3180
02:08:27,990 --> 02:08:26,320
disinformation or or some you know crap

3181
02:08:29,430 --> 02:08:28,000
like that it's it's and it's so

3182
02:08:30,870 --> 02:08:29,440
disheartening because you know these

3183
02:08:33,270 --> 02:08:30,880
people through to talk to them on the

3184
02:08:35,830 --> 02:08:33,280
street and say look have you ever

3185
02:08:38,229 --> 02:08:35,840
actually had a conversation with me

3186
02:08:39,350 --> 02:08:38,239
answered no well you know maybe you

3187
02:08:41,189 --> 02:08:39,360
should try i mean i'm pretty

3188
02:08:42,550 --> 02:08:41,199
approachable i mean

3189
02:08:44,390 --> 02:08:42,560
a lot of people reach out to me and are

3190
02:08:46,310 --> 02:08:44,400
surprised when i you know when i reach

3191
02:08:48,870 --> 02:08:46,320
out back to them and say hi you know

3192
02:08:50,229 --> 02:08:48,880
it's uh i have no problem

3193
02:08:52,629 --> 02:08:50,239
sharing information what i do have a

3194
02:08:54,870 --> 02:08:52,639
problem with is drama and artificial

3195
02:08:56,550 --> 02:08:54,880
drama and i i don't have time or

3196
02:08:57,990 --> 02:08:56,560
patience for that

3197
02:08:59,669 --> 02:08:58,000
it's a distraction to this community

3198
02:09:01,109 --> 02:08:59,679
it's what's been holding this community

3199
02:09:02,629 --> 02:09:01,119
back for so long it's why i don't

3200
02:09:04,950 --> 02:09:02,639
participate in it that's why i'm not a

3201
02:09:06,470 --> 02:09:04,960
ufologist or to ufology

3202
02:09:08,069 --> 02:09:06,480
because they eat their own

3203
02:09:09,510 --> 02:09:08,079
they they are not interested in the

3204
02:09:10,790 --> 02:09:09,520
truth they're only interested in their

3205
02:09:11,910 --> 02:09:10,800
own narrative and that's why and i'll

3206
02:09:14,069 --> 02:09:11,920
tell you right now and i'm going to piss

3207
02:09:16,149 --> 02:09:14,079
a lot of people off so if you're a hater

3208
02:09:19,030 --> 02:09:16,159
then you're really going to hate me um

3209
02:09:21,189 --> 02:09:19,040
which which is probably a good thing um

3210
02:09:24,069 --> 02:09:21,199
i want to just i want to obliterate

3211
02:09:26,709 --> 02:09:24,079
ufology as we know it i want to destroy

3212
02:09:28,870 --> 02:09:26,719
it i want it i want to crumple it up and

3213
02:09:30,629 --> 02:09:28,880
burn it and and rip it into a thousand

3214
02:09:32,390 --> 02:09:30,639
pieces and put it through the shredder

3215
02:09:34,709 --> 02:09:32,400
and hopefully what comes out of it is

3216
02:09:36,790 --> 02:09:34,719
something much more scientifically

3217
02:09:39,270 --> 02:09:36,800
focused and rational

3218
02:09:41,830 --> 02:09:39,280
this is why we have people like avi loeb

3219
02:09:43,270 --> 02:09:41,840
uh working so hard and so diligently

3220
02:09:46,550 --> 02:09:43,280
because what we need

3221
02:09:48,390 --> 02:09:46,560
is is is the scientific community the

3222
02:09:50,950 --> 02:09:48,400
academic community the technology

3223
02:09:53,430 --> 02:09:50,960
communities to step up and have the

3224
02:09:54,790 --> 02:09:53,440
conversation the elon musks of the world

3225
02:09:55,589 --> 02:09:54,800
whether you like them or not people

3226
02:09:57,669 --> 02:09:55,599
who've

3227
02:09:59,910 --> 02:09:57,679
revolutionized technology in certain

3228
02:10:02,470 --> 02:09:59,920
ways and the scientific community like

3229
02:10:04,470 --> 02:10:02,480
abby loeb coming out and and speculating

3230
02:10:06,629 --> 02:10:04,480
that umura might be actually some sort

3231
02:10:08,790 --> 02:10:06,639
of interstellar probe right

3232
02:10:10,950 --> 02:10:08,800
this is a guy who's very very serious

3233
02:10:14,709 --> 02:10:10,960
and works at none other than harvard and

3234
02:10:16,310 --> 02:10:14,719
comes out with this idea and he don't

3235
02:10:18,470 --> 02:10:16,320
really

3236
02:10:21,030 --> 02:10:18,480
you know try try to suppress him for it

3237
02:10:23,830 --> 02:10:21,040
and you know let's not forget

3238
02:10:26,149 --> 02:10:23,840
every concept in science that we hold

3239
02:10:28,870 --> 02:10:26,159
near and dear and true to our heart

3240
02:10:30,629 --> 02:10:28,880
started off as someone zany concept at

3241
02:10:32,790 --> 02:10:30,639
one point someone's zany id and it

3242
02:10:34,310 --> 02:10:32,800
turned out to be correct so

3243
02:10:37,669 --> 02:10:34,320
you know let's

3244
02:10:39,910 --> 02:10:37,679
let's try to to do our best to to to

3245
02:10:42,709 --> 02:10:39,920
look at this topic objectively

3246
02:10:46,229 --> 02:10:42,719
and um yeah you know if i could reinvent

3247
02:10:48,790 --> 02:10:46,239
ufology i would because i i don't

3248
02:10:50,470 --> 02:10:48,800
i don't like where it is there's a lot

3249
02:10:51,990 --> 02:10:50,480
of really good people i have the honor

3250
02:10:54,149 --> 02:10:52,000
and privilege to work with some really

3251
02:10:55,350 --> 02:10:54,159
good people actually on ufo twitter uap

3252
02:10:56,550 --> 02:10:55,360
twitter

3253
02:10:58,550 --> 02:10:56,560
who are

3254
02:11:00,950 --> 02:10:58,560
very rational minded and just want the

3255
02:11:03,669 --> 02:11:00,960
truth uh but then you've got this other

3256
02:11:05,189 --> 02:11:03,679
sect of people this sub-sect of people

3257
02:11:08,870 --> 02:11:05,199
who have this

3258
02:11:11,669 --> 02:11:08,880
weird pride and ego thing going on

3259
02:11:13,910 --> 02:11:11,679
where it's all about them and they think

3260
02:11:16,229 --> 02:11:13,920
it's it's it's it the conversation

3261
02:11:17,830 --> 02:11:16,239
should be about them right and what they

3262
02:11:20,069 --> 02:11:17,840
think well no it shouldn't has nothing

3263
02:11:21,990 --> 02:11:20,079
to do about you or what you think it has

3264
02:11:25,669 --> 02:11:22,000
to do with us all of us collectively

3265
02:11:27,750 --> 02:11:25,679
together as a society and and if you are

3266
02:11:29,589 --> 02:11:27,760
if you are against that then you know

3267
02:11:32,069 --> 02:11:29,599
what maybe maybe i'm kind of glad you're

3268
02:11:33,910 --> 02:11:32,079
a hater of mine because if you if you

3269
02:11:35,830 --> 02:11:33,920
actually liked me then maybe maybe i'm

3270
02:11:37,750 --> 02:11:35,840
doing something wrong yeah yeah there's

3271
02:11:39,270 --> 02:11:37,760
a lot to be said about that in that

3272
02:11:40,550 --> 02:11:39,280
approach and

3273
02:11:43,270 --> 02:11:40,560
i uh

3274
02:11:44,149 --> 02:11:43,280
i have always respected

3275
02:11:47,270 --> 02:11:44,159
uh

3276
02:11:49,430 --> 02:11:47,280
one thought and i and this is how

3277
02:11:50,709 --> 02:11:49,440
nobody knows

3278
02:11:54,470 --> 02:11:50,719
the secrets

3279
02:11:57,189 --> 02:11:54,480
nobody knows what is actually going on

3280
02:11:58,790 --> 02:11:57,199
that's it what we need to do is just

3281
02:12:00,709 --> 02:11:58,800
listen to each other

3282
02:12:02,709 --> 02:12:00,719
right that's it keep your ears open and

3283
02:12:04,790 --> 02:12:02,719
keep your mouth shut that's all you got

3284
02:12:06,470 --> 02:12:04,800
to do and that's how you learn

3285
02:12:09,030 --> 02:12:06,480
right and if you want to just turn

3286
02:12:13,030 --> 02:12:09,040
around and shut somebody down for

3287
02:12:14,149 --> 02:12:13,040
whatever like like you or whatever me

3288
02:12:15,350 --> 02:12:14,159
uh

3289
02:12:17,910 --> 02:12:15,360
we're not going to move this thing

3290
02:12:19,990 --> 02:12:17,920
forward let's just collectively let's be

3291
02:12:22,069 --> 02:12:20,000
the rainbow coalition here right and

3292
02:12:23,350 --> 02:12:22,079
just put everything on the center of the

3293
02:12:26,390 --> 02:12:23,360
table which

3294
02:12:29,669 --> 02:12:26,400
uh going back to avi i wanted to ask you

3295
02:12:32,629 --> 02:12:29,679
directly if i may what is your role

3296
02:12:34,550 --> 02:12:32,639
over at the galileo project

3297
02:12:36,629 --> 02:12:34,560
i'm an advisor i've been asked to be an

3298
02:12:37,910 --> 02:12:36,639
advisor and chris mellon and i and and

3299
02:12:39,830 --> 02:12:37,920
other folks are

3300
02:12:41,990 --> 02:12:39,840
are are proud to be part of that effort

3301
02:12:43,510 --> 02:12:42,000
um i absolutely love what avi is doing

3302
02:12:45,430 --> 02:12:43,520
if you ever get a chance to sit into one

3303
02:12:47,430 --> 02:12:45,440
of his meetings and see what what those

3304
02:12:49,669 --> 02:12:47,440
folks are putting together um it makes

3305
02:12:51,589 --> 02:12:49,679
sense um you know they're really

3306
02:12:53,750 --> 02:12:51,599
applying hard science and

3307
02:12:56,310 --> 02:12:53,760
and some of the the best technology

3308
02:12:58,709 --> 02:12:56,320
today to try to solve this problem uh

3309
02:13:00,149 --> 02:12:58,719
you know it's a bit of a crawl walk run

3310
02:13:01,750 --> 02:13:00,159
methodology where you know you want

3311
02:13:03,990 --> 02:13:01,760
proof of concept first and make sure

3312
02:13:05,270 --> 02:13:04,000
that that it works

3313
02:13:07,109 --> 02:13:05,280
before you invest a whole lot of money

3314
02:13:09,109 --> 02:13:07,119
in technology that doesn't so they're

3315
02:13:10,950 --> 02:13:09,119
approaching this the the right way they

3316
02:13:13,109 --> 02:13:10,960
have uh investors and people who are

3317
02:13:15,189 --> 02:13:13,119
willing to to put their credibility on

3318
02:13:16,790 --> 02:13:15,199
the line as well to test the theory look

3319
02:13:18,629 --> 02:13:16,800
they're not saying that they are or they

3320
02:13:19,669 --> 02:13:18,639
are not uaps they're simply saying if

3321
02:13:21,669 --> 02:13:19,679
there are

3322
02:13:22,790 --> 02:13:21,679
then let's try to collect information on

3323
02:13:24,550 --> 02:13:22,800
them right

3324
02:13:26,149 --> 02:13:24,560
that is the scientific way of doing

3325
02:13:28,069 --> 02:13:26,159
things after all so

3326
02:13:30,709 --> 02:13:28,079
so i applaud what they're doing uh i

3327
02:13:34,310 --> 02:13:30,719
applaud their efforts they're trying to

3328
02:13:36,310 --> 02:13:34,320
dispel some of the the um stigma in

3329
02:13:38,069 --> 02:13:36,320
taboo that has been been historically

3330
02:13:40,310 --> 02:13:38,079
associated with this

3331
02:13:42,390 --> 02:13:40,320
there is now a university in germany

3332
02:13:45,109 --> 02:13:42,400
that has uh decided to actually have a

3333
02:13:46,390 --> 02:13:45,119
curriculum on uap there's a college here

3334
02:13:49,030 --> 02:13:46,400
in the united states that's starting to

3335
02:13:53,510 --> 02:13:49,040
have a curriculum on uap they're having

3336
02:13:56,629 --> 02:13:53,520
uh topics of discussion on uap at uh the

3337
02:13:59,109 --> 02:13:56,639
defense intelligence university um

3338
02:14:00,470 --> 02:13:59,119
national defense until ndu and and some

3339
02:14:02,069 --> 02:14:00,480
other places so

3340
02:14:03,830 --> 02:14:02,079
so this is great this is exactly what

3341
02:14:04,870 --> 02:14:03,840
what should happen we should have the

3342
02:14:06,310 --> 02:14:04,880
best and brightest having this

3343
02:14:08,709 --> 02:14:06,320
conversation as well as long as

3344
02:14:10,830 --> 02:14:08,719
everybody as well as everybody else are

3345
02:14:13,109 --> 02:14:10,840
you concerned

3346
02:14:15,510 --> 02:14:13,119
uh that

3347
02:14:18,550 --> 02:14:15,520
if avi

3348
02:14:19,589 --> 02:14:18,560
makes a discovery right something

3349
02:14:23,189 --> 02:14:19,599
happens

3350
02:14:25,109 --> 02:14:23,199
you know he detects they do the uh

3351
02:14:27,189 --> 02:14:25,119
the laboratory testing they look at the

3352
02:14:29,589 --> 02:14:27,199
measurements they look at the data and

3353
02:14:31,669 --> 02:14:29,599
they come to a conclusion

3354
02:14:33,910 --> 02:14:31,679
that this is extraterrestrial whatever

3355
02:14:38,149 --> 02:14:33,920
this event happens right

3356
02:14:41,109 --> 02:14:38,159
that the government may come in and run

3357
02:14:42,870 --> 02:14:41,119
interference and take this information

3358
02:14:44,550 --> 02:14:42,880
and it doesn't go public

3359
02:14:47,510 --> 02:14:44,560
no cat's out of the back it's it's too

3360
02:14:49,030 --> 02:14:47,520
late for that um it's it's

3361
02:14:51,109 --> 02:14:49,040
to try to put the finger in the dike at

3362
02:14:53,510 --> 02:14:51,119
this point is fruitless because because

3363
02:14:55,030 --> 02:14:53,520
cracks are springing up everywhere um i

3364
02:14:56,470 --> 02:14:55,040
hate to say the word leaks because you

3365
02:14:57,910 --> 02:14:56,480
know that that connotates people doing

3366
02:14:58,950 --> 02:14:57,920
illegal things but

3367
02:15:01,510 --> 02:14:58,960
but

3368
02:15:03,750 --> 02:15:01,520
i you can't you can't stop it um there's

3369
02:15:05,030 --> 02:15:03,760
just too many holes in the dike to plug

3370
02:15:08,390 --> 02:15:05,040
at this point so

3371
02:15:10,870 --> 02:15:08,400
um you know again i think if if if avi

3372
02:15:12,149 --> 02:15:10,880
is successful in in finding by the way

3373
02:15:13,189 --> 02:15:12,159
he stands a pretty good chance in my

3374
02:15:15,270 --> 02:15:13,199
opinion

3375
02:15:16,629 --> 02:15:15,280
um you know you're looking at it

3376
02:15:18,629 --> 02:15:16,639
rather than trying to suppress it why

3377
02:15:19,430 --> 02:15:18,639
not offer them the nobel peace prize you

3378
02:15:21,109 --> 02:15:19,440
know

3379
02:15:23,189 --> 02:15:21,119
for for that um something that could

3380
02:15:24,950 --> 02:15:23,199
bring all of humanity together

3381
02:15:29,510 --> 02:15:24,960
is um

3382
02:15:32,550 --> 02:15:29,520
is is it a situation where uh you

3383
02:15:35,910 --> 02:15:32,560
um you have a physical demeanor you have

3384
02:15:38,229 --> 02:15:35,920
a mental demeanor um i'm going to use

3385
02:15:39,430 --> 02:15:38,239
the word pitbull let's just go pitbull

3386
02:15:43,510 --> 02:15:39,440
overall

3387
02:15:44,550 --> 02:15:43,520
and you're the pitbull ufo guy right

3388
02:15:46,950 --> 02:15:44,560
and

3389
02:15:49,030 --> 02:15:46,960
is that the way

3390
02:15:51,350 --> 02:15:49,040
that not only the senate intelligence

3391
02:15:54,390 --> 02:15:51,360
committee but members of the dod

3392
02:15:56,550 --> 02:15:54,400
uh observe you and if you weren't there

3393
02:15:59,109 --> 02:15:56,560
that maybe they would be a little bit

3394
02:16:01,910 --> 02:15:59,119
more relaxed on this issue

3395
02:16:03,589 --> 02:16:01,920
but you're there to make sure right and

3396
02:16:05,589 --> 02:16:03,599
be that pit bull

3397
02:16:07,030 --> 02:16:05,599
that this thing continues to move

3398
02:16:08,709 --> 02:16:07,040
forward

3399
02:16:10,709 --> 02:16:08,719
you know that's that's interesting you

3400
02:16:12,390 --> 02:16:10,719
put it that way um

3401
02:16:15,270 --> 02:16:12,400
you know i there are people who consider

3402
02:16:17,109 --> 02:16:15,280
me that that proverbial pitbull ufo guy

3403
02:16:18,870 --> 02:16:17,119
but i prefer to be known as that pitbull

3404
02:16:21,350 --> 02:16:18,880
transparency guy

3405
02:16:24,310 --> 02:16:21,360
ufos are just one topic

3406
02:16:25,189 --> 02:16:24,320
um we we are facing a national crisis

3407
02:16:28,950 --> 02:16:25,199
where

3408
02:16:30,950 --> 02:16:28,960
our people have in its governments and

3409
02:16:32,790 --> 02:16:30,960
institutions is an all-time low and

3410
02:16:35,190 --> 02:16:32,800
that's problematic that that's a real

3411
02:16:36,950 --> 02:16:35,200
problem uh and if you don't see it then

3412
02:16:38,150 --> 02:16:36,960
then you've been living living in a

3413
02:16:39,270 --> 02:16:38,160
closet

3414
02:16:41,110 --> 02:16:39,280
um

3415
02:16:42,870 --> 02:16:41,120
there are a lot of things that that the

3416
02:16:45,190 --> 02:16:42,880
american people deserve to know and

3417
02:16:46,629 --> 02:16:45,200
should know and and ufos is just one of

3418
02:16:48,709 --> 02:16:46,639
those because i was assigned that but

3419
02:16:51,589 --> 02:16:48,719
there are other areas as well that

3420
02:16:53,750 --> 02:16:51,599
deserve equal amount of transparency and

3421
02:16:55,669 --> 02:16:53,760
if given the opportunity you're damn

3422
02:16:57,509 --> 02:16:55,679
well i'm going to make sure that that

3423
02:16:59,669 --> 02:16:57,519
that comes to light too

3424
02:17:01,429 --> 02:16:59,679
i you know saw a lot of things during my

3425
02:17:03,750 --> 02:17:01,439
time into government a lot of it worked

3426
02:17:05,589 --> 02:17:03,760
really good a lot of it was was just

3427
02:17:08,309 --> 02:17:05,599
there were some things that weren't and

3428
02:17:09,349 --> 02:17:08,319
and i think if given the opportunity

3429
02:17:10,549 --> 02:17:09,359
you know of course you've got to pick

3430
02:17:12,549 --> 02:17:10,559
and choose your battles and you have to

3431
02:17:14,870 --> 02:17:12,559
prioritize so right now the topics you

3432
02:17:16,389 --> 02:17:14,880
ap but once i can sit back and there's

3433
02:17:19,110 --> 02:17:16,399
enough momentum and we reach critical

3434
02:17:20,790 --> 02:17:19,120
mass and i can divest from this topic

3435
02:17:22,549 --> 02:17:20,800
there's a few others i want to engage in

3436
02:17:24,629 --> 02:17:22,559
you know that the american people should

3437
02:17:26,549 --> 02:17:24,639
should be aware of they deserve to know

3438
02:17:28,469 --> 02:17:26,559
this is their government and the

3439
02:17:30,629 --> 02:17:28,479
government works for them serves them

3440
02:17:32,629 --> 02:17:30,639
not the other way around and i believe

3441
02:17:35,110 --> 02:17:32,639
in that you know i i went to war for

3442
02:17:36,150 --> 02:17:35,120
that this this is how i feel

3443
02:17:40,150 --> 02:17:36,160
um

3444
02:17:41,830 --> 02:17:40,160
i'm committed to it and you know it's

3445
02:17:43,349 --> 02:17:41,840
you either feel that way or you don't

3446
02:17:45,509 --> 02:17:43,359
and for those that don't feel that way

3447
02:17:46,950 --> 02:17:45,519
well i understand and i respect that but

3448
02:17:48,709 --> 02:17:46,960
don't stop me from feeling the way i

3449
02:17:51,429 --> 02:17:48,719
feel and doing what i think i need to do

3450
02:17:53,110 --> 02:17:51,439
and what's just and for me i you know i

3451
02:17:54,790 --> 02:17:53,120
have always from my entire career serve

3452
02:17:56,790 --> 02:17:54,800
the american people and in a very weird

3453
02:17:58,950 --> 02:17:56,800
way i'm still serving the american

3454
02:18:01,830 --> 02:17:58,960
people and their interests i just i'm

3455
02:18:04,629 --> 02:18:01,840
doing it you know via this means

3456
02:18:07,509 --> 02:18:04,639
um but making a mistake as as much as

3457
02:18:09,349 --> 02:18:07,519
i'm a pit bull for the ump topic

3458
02:18:11,990 --> 02:18:09,359
i'm not a ufo guy

3459
02:18:14,469 --> 02:18:12,000
i'm i'm an ex-government guy that that

3460
02:18:16,230 --> 02:18:14,479
wants transparency that there's a lot of

3461
02:18:17,190 --> 02:18:16,240
topics i think americans would be

3462
02:18:18,870 --> 02:18:17,200
shocked

3463
02:18:19,589 --> 02:18:18,880
you know give you another example you

3464
02:18:21,190 --> 02:18:19,599
know

3465
02:18:22,709 --> 02:18:21,200
the area of conspiracy theories with

3466
02:18:24,469 --> 02:18:22,719
with jfk

3467
02:18:25,990 --> 02:18:24,479
you know it's it's been a long time

3468
02:18:28,070 --> 02:18:26,000
brother why can't we have the

3469
02:18:31,030 --> 02:18:28,080
conversation why are we keeping those

3470
02:18:33,830 --> 02:18:31,040
documents classified for another 25

3471
02:18:35,750 --> 02:18:33,840
years that's crap there's no reason

3472
02:18:37,589 --> 02:18:35,760
other than to cover your ass

3473
02:18:39,030 --> 02:18:37,599
and that is something that i don't i

3474
02:18:41,110 --> 02:18:39,040
don't accept

3475
02:18:43,270 --> 02:18:41,120
i don't i don't i don't acknowledge that

3476
02:18:44,790 --> 02:18:43,280
that you do not keep things classified

3477
02:18:46,709 --> 02:18:44,800
out of embarrassment or to cover your

3478
02:18:48,709 --> 02:18:46,719
ass you do it because you're protecting

3479
02:18:50,389 --> 02:18:48,719
sources and methods that's why you do it

3480
02:18:51,750 --> 02:18:50,399
and there's a way to to get that

3481
02:18:53,190 --> 02:18:51,760
information out while still protecting

3482
02:18:54,230 --> 02:18:53,200
sources of methods but that's just one

3483
02:18:55,990 --> 02:18:54,240
example

3484
02:18:57,509 --> 02:18:56,000
you know there's a lot of things look at

3485
02:18:58,230 --> 02:18:57,519
the pentagon papers

3486
02:19:03,589 --> 02:18:58,240
were

3487
02:19:05,110 --> 02:19:03,599
really going on at the time despite what

3488
02:19:06,709 --> 02:19:05,120
the public statements were by the

3489
02:19:08,870 --> 02:19:06,719
pentagon and the press secretaries which

3490
02:19:10,709 --> 02:19:08,880
we know a lot about right in recent time

3491
02:19:11,990 --> 02:19:10,719
on this topic sure you know what turns

3492
02:19:13,509 --> 02:19:12,000
out that they weren't being forthcoming

3493
02:19:14,709 --> 02:19:13,519
they weren't being truthful they were

3494
02:19:16,709 --> 02:19:14,719
lying

3495
02:19:18,709 --> 02:19:16,719
and all of a sudden people were like

3496
02:19:20,549 --> 02:19:18,719
oh well well okay if you want to be a

3497
02:19:22,230 --> 02:19:20,559
sheeple then you know shut up and be a

3498
02:19:25,190 --> 02:19:22,240
sheep and do what you're told i'm not

3499
02:19:28,709 --> 02:19:25,200
that guy and don't ask me to be that guy

3500
02:19:30,790 --> 02:19:28,719
and that's why i i i am the way i am

3501
02:19:32,870 --> 02:19:30,800
you know no i'm not gonna roll over no

3502
02:19:34,389 --> 02:19:32,880
i'm not gonna listen to some bs

3503
02:19:35,990 --> 02:19:34,399
narrative some guy dropping flares out

3504
02:19:37,750 --> 02:19:36,000
of a plane and trying to charge money

3505
02:19:40,230 --> 02:19:37,760
that's crap that's criminal

3506
02:19:42,309 --> 02:19:40,240
you know this is this is a serious topic

3507
02:19:44,950 --> 02:19:42,319
and i and i and i i am committed to it

3508
02:19:46,870 --> 02:19:44,960
just like i am the the other topics that

3509
02:19:48,469 --> 02:19:46,880
someday will hopefully come to light i

3510
02:19:50,150 --> 02:19:48,479
think the american people need to know i

3511
02:19:51,429 --> 02:19:50,160
think they deserve it and if at the end

3512
02:19:52,790 --> 02:19:51,439
of the day the american people have a

3513
02:19:53,750 --> 02:19:52,800
conversation to say lou this is great

3514
02:19:56,150 --> 02:19:53,760
but you know what we really don't want

3515
02:19:58,150 --> 02:19:56,160
to know fine you know i'll pack my crap

3516
02:19:59,590 --> 02:19:58,160
and go work at walmart i don't care

3517
02:20:01,030 --> 02:19:59,600
this is a lot less of a headache than

3518
02:20:02,710 --> 02:20:01,040
what i'm doing now believe me this is

3519
02:20:04,870 --> 02:20:02,720
invasive to my family and to me into

3520
02:20:06,469 --> 02:20:04,880
everything that i'm i'm doing i i don't

3521
02:20:08,309 --> 02:20:06,479
like it i don't like the public eye i

3522
02:20:09,590 --> 02:20:08,319
don't like it at all if i could just dis

3523
02:20:11,750 --> 02:20:09,600
the reason why i live in the middle of

3524
02:20:13,910 --> 02:20:11,760
nowhere wyoming but i'm doing this

3525
02:20:15,190 --> 02:20:13,920
because i'm committed to the cause

3526
02:20:16,630 --> 02:20:15,200
you know and and

3527
02:20:18,070 --> 02:20:16,640
again i don't know how to explain it

3528
02:20:20,550 --> 02:20:18,080
either you either feel this way or you

3529
02:20:23,830 --> 02:20:20,560
don't no you've explained it no you've

3530
02:20:24,790 --> 02:20:23,840
explained it well and with those efforts

3531
02:20:27,270 --> 02:20:24,800
lou

3532
02:20:29,030 --> 02:20:27,280
it's one thing to talk about rubio and

3533
02:20:32,070 --> 02:20:29,040
gillibrand in the senate and capitol

3534
02:20:34,790 --> 02:20:32,080
hill and in the pentagon

3535
02:20:37,270 --> 02:20:34,800
how much of this conversation is moving

3536
02:20:40,550 --> 02:20:37,280
over to pennsylvania avenue how much of

3537
02:20:43,349 --> 02:20:40,560
this conversation continues on in the

3538
02:20:48,309 --> 02:20:46,070
well the white house isn't a uh

3539
02:20:49,830 --> 02:20:48,319
you know big monolithic entity that

3540
02:20:51,510 --> 02:20:49,840
people think it is you know you have the

3541
02:20:53,190 --> 02:20:51,520
national security council you have the

3542
02:20:55,429 --> 02:20:53,200
white house you got a bunch of advisors

3543
02:20:56,230 --> 02:20:55,439
you've got senior cabinet members of the

3544
02:21:00,469 --> 02:20:56,240
of the

3545
02:21:02,630 --> 02:21:00,479
um so there's there's actually quite a

3546
02:21:04,630 --> 02:21:02,640
few people that that need to be brought

3547
02:21:06,469 --> 02:21:04,640
into the loop um i am certainly not

3548
02:21:08,710 --> 02:21:06,479
going to speak on behalf of this

3549
02:21:11,349 --> 02:21:08,720
administration or any administration um

3550
02:21:13,110 --> 02:21:11,359
i'm i'm not i'm not part of the their

3551
02:21:15,750 --> 02:21:13,120
cabinet and uh

3552
02:21:17,510 --> 02:21:15,760
until i am i really i'm not you know i

3553
02:21:18,870 --> 02:21:17,520
don't know what they're talking about on

3554
02:21:20,710 --> 02:21:18,880
the inside i can tell you what the

3555
02:21:22,309 --> 02:21:20,720
layers below them are saying

3556
02:21:23,429 --> 02:21:22,319
um and they're taking this topic very

3557
02:21:25,190 --> 02:21:23,439
seriously

3558
02:21:27,030 --> 02:21:25,200
um

3559
02:21:28,950 --> 02:21:27,040
you know but

3560
02:21:30,950 --> 02:21:28,960
i i can't i can't tell you what what

3561
02:21:33,270 --> 02:21:30,960
this administration i can tell you that

3562
02:21:35,110 --> 02:21:33,280
uh folks in very high places were before

3563
02:21:36,790 --> 02:21:35,120
they were in in those positions like

3564
02:21:37,510 --> 02:21:36,800
vice president they held other positions

3565
02:21:39,190 --> 02:21:37,520
where

3566
02:21:41,030 --> 02:21:39,200
they were probably privy to this this

3567
02:21:42,309 --> 02:21:41,040
conversation you know senate armed

3568
02:21:43,429 --> 02:21:42,319
services committees and a select

3569
02:21:44,389 --> 02:21:43,439
committee on intelligence and things

3570
02:21:45,990 --> 02:21:44,399
like that

3571
02:21:49,950 --> 02:21:46,000
but i i'm not going to speak on their

3572
02:21:53,750 --> 02:21:52,150
2022 is right in front of us we're

3573
02:21:56,150 --> 02:21:53,760
sitting in the middle of february

3574
02:21:58,630 --> 02:21:56,160
closing in on march

3575
02:22:01,270 --> 02:21:58,640
we've got two reports that are due one

3576
02:22:03,429 --> 02:22:01,280
in june one in december that is public

3577
02:22:05,110 --> 02:22:03,439
and then we have the classified version

3578
02:22:06,870 --> 02:22:05,120
um

3579
02:22:10,469 --> 02:22:06,880
in the legislation that will be

3580
02:22:12,950 --> 02:22:10,479
presented classified in december at uh

3581
02:22:14,950 --> 02:22:12,960
the close of the fiscal year

3582
02:22:16,710 --> 02:22:14,960
how quickly

3583
02:22:20,070 --> 02:22:16,720
do you see

3584
02:22:23,670 --> 02:22:20,080
things moving along in 2022 is there a

3585
02:22:25,270 --> 02:22:23,680
timeline do you see a big event some

3586
02:22:28,630 --> 02:22:25,280
type of uh

3587
02:22:30,469 --> 02:22:28,640
uh information to be revealed mid-year

3588
02:22:33,270 --> 02:22:30,479
in a month

3589
02:22:35,110 --> 02:22:33,280
and and maybe a second wave how do you

3590
02:22:38,070 --> 02:22:35,120
see this playing out with what you know

3591
02:22:39,590 --> 02:22:38,080
right now well you know if anybody's

3592
02:22:41,429 --> 02:22:39,600
ever heard me talk before i never like

3593
02:22:43,990 --> 02:22:41,439
to be specific i never give specific

3594
02:22:47,030 --> 02:22:44,000
times because i i'd rather you know

3595
02:22:48,950 --> 02:22:47,040
under promise and and over deliver um

3596
02:22:51,349 --> 02:22:48,960
that's what that i prefer to do

3597
02:22:53,670 --> 02:22:51,359
but if you recall from the beginning

3598
02:22:55,110 --> 02:22:53,680
when i said you know when i first came

3599
02:22:56,150 --> 02:22:55,120
out i said you know i think we're gonna

3600
02:22:57,510 --> 02:22:56,160
have a fundamentally different

3601
02:22:58,550 --> 02:22:57,520
conversation

3602
02:23:01,110 --> 02:22:58,560
in a year

3603
02:23:03,110 --> 02:23:01,120
that happened and then last year i said

3604
02:23:05,349 --> 02:23:03,120
well i think you know we're we're gonna

3605
02:23:07,349 --> 02:23:05,359
have a significant conversation

3606
02:23:09,990 --> 02:23:07,359
uh you know as we move this ball down

3607
02:23:10,790 --> 02:23:10,000
down the field a bit and we are um every

3608
02:23:12,950 --> 02:23:10,800
day

3609
02:23:15,429 --> 02:23:12,960
uh conversations are occurring actions

3610
02:23:17,349 --> 02:23:15,439
are happening to to help improve

3611
02:23:19,990 --> 02:23:17,359
visibility into this incredible enigma

3612
02:23:20,870 --> 02:23:20,000
we call ufos or uap

3613
02:23:22,710 --> 02:23:20,880
um

3614
02:23:24,950 --> 02:23:22,720
you know i'm not a gambling man but if i

3615
02:23:27,830 --> 02:23:24,960
was i'd say that you know 22 is shaping

3616
02:23:29,429 --> 02:23:27,840
up to be a a banner year for for

3617
02:23:31,590 --> 02:23:29,439
disclosure remember

3618
02:23:32,389 --> 02:23:31,600
i said from day one disclosure isn't an

3619
02:23:33,750 --> 02:23:32,399
event

3620
02:23:35,349 --> 02:23:33,760
it's a process

3621
02:23:37,750 --> 02:23:35,359
and we're living through that process

3622
02:23:39,910 --> 02:23:37,760
right now and as frustrating as it may

3623
02:23:41,590 --> 02:23:39,920
be for some people i have to look back

3624
02:23:44,550 --> 02:23:41,600
and say what a magnificent time to be

3625
02:23:47,429 --> 02:23:44,560
alive this is this is a new paradigm for

3626
02:23:49,510 --> 02:23:47,439
our species and we're facing it and yeah

3627
02:23:51,750 --> 02:23:49,520
it's tough and it you know sparks fly

3628
02:23:53,110 --> 02:23:51,760
and it's a lot of friction

3629
02:23:55,910 --> 02:23:53,120
but we're doing it

3630
02:23:57,429 --> 02:23:55,920
and we've we've moved you know

3631
02:23:58,230 --> 02:23:57,439
tectonically

3632
02:24:01,429 --> 02:23:58,240
uh

3633
02:24:02,389 --> 02:24:01,439
pretty far in in just four years

3634
02:24:03,990 --> 02:24:02,399
um

3635
02:24:05,590 --> 02:24:04,000
i don't think four years ago if you were

3636
02:24:07,190 --> 02:24:05,600
to ask somebody would we be having

3637
02:24:09,190 --> 02:24:07,200
legislation in law

3638
02:24:11,190 --> 02:24:09,200
and directors of cia and directors of

3639
02:24:13,270 --> 02:24:11,200
national intelligence directors of nasa

3640
02:24:14,790 --> 02:24:13,280
and presidents all coming out saying

3641
02:24:16,150 --> 02:24:14,800
yeah this is real

3642
02:24:17,910 --> 02:24:16,160
they would probably

3643
02:24:20,469 --> 02:24:17,920
try to commit you uh you know to some

3644
02:24:22,550 --> 02:24:20,479
sort of mental institution um

3645
02:24:24,389 --> 02:24:22,560
but yet here we are right we're having

3646
02:24:25,990 --> 02:24:24,399
this conversation you and me and your

3647
02:24:28,389 --> 02:24:26,000
your wonderful audience

3648
02:24:29,670 --> 02:24:28,399
uh and it's real it's not wishful

3649
02:24:32,150 --> 02:24:29,680
thinking and it's not hope wouldn't it

3650
02:24:34,630 --> 02:24:32,160
be great if one day no

3651
02:24:35,830 --> 02:24:34,640
we're here now right now you and me and

3652
02:24:37,910 --> 02:24:35,840
your audience

3653
02:24:40,389 --> 02:24:37,920
living through history

3654
02:24:42,790 --> 02:24:40,399
and history hasn't finished been hasn't

3655
02:24:44,790 --> 02:24:42,800
been finished writing itself

3656
02:24:46,870 --> 02:24:44,800
so so what a magnificent time to be

3657
02:24:48,309 --> 02:24:46,880
alive what an exciting time to be alive

3658
02:24:49,990 --> 02:24:48,319
for our species

3659
02:24:51,670 --> 02:24:50,000
yeah we've got problems we've got putin

3660
02:24:54,070 --> 02:24:51,680
right now at the front door of of the

3661
02:24:56,469 --> 02:24:54,080
ukraine and we've got china looking into

3662
02:24:58,389 --> 02:24:56,479
the south china sea and then into taiwan

3663
02:25:00,630 --> 02:24:58,399
and you know we still got terrorism and

3664
02:25:02,550 --> 02:25:00,640
we've got covet and we've got political

3665
02:25:04,870 --> 02:25:02,560
issues and infighting and we've got you

3666
02:25:08,150 --> 02:25:04,880
know the economic issues and inflation

3667
02:25:09,910 --> 02:25:08,160
now we've got some social unrest

3668
02:25:12,150 --> 02:25:09,920
but that's all normal we do that anyways

3669
02:25:14,150 --> 02:25:12,160
as a species that happens all the time

3670
02:25:15,190 --> 02:25:14,160
this that's never changed what has

3671
02:25:16,950 --> 02:25:15,200
changed is that we're having a

3672
02:25:19,270 --> 02:25:16,960
conversation about something potentially

3673
02:25:21,190 --> 02:25:19,280
existential something bigger than our

3674
02:25:24,070 --> 02:25:21,200
entire species bigger than our entire

3675
02:25:25,349 --> 02:25:24,080
world and our preconceived notions of

3676
02:25:26,550 --> 02:25:25,359
who we are

3677
02:25:30,309 --> 02:25:26,560
so

3678
02:25:32,870 --> 02:25:30,319
i think i think there's a lot that we

3679
02:25:33,990 --> 02:25:32,880
can expect in in in this next year for

3680
02:25:35,910 --> 02:25:34,000
22.

3681
02:25:37,510 --> 02:25:35,920
um you know i want to manage

3682
02:25:39,030 --> 02:25:37,520
expectations i don't want to say you

3683
02:25:41,990 --> 02:25:39,040
know the ufo's going to land on the

3684
02:25:43,750 --> 02:25:42,000
white house long um but it doesn't have

3685
02:25:45,349 --> 02:25:43,760
to we're we're we're having the

3686
02:25:46,550 --> 02:25:45,359
conversation we're exactly where we need

3687
02:25:48,309 --> 02:25:46,560
to be in fact we're probably a little

3688
02:25:50,710 --> 02:25:48,319
ahead of where where i thought we would

3689
02:25:53,670 --> 02:25:50,720
have been so so i'm quite pleased i'm

3690
02:25:56,870 --> 02:25:53,680
quite quite content um you

3691
02:26:00,150 --> 02:25:56,880
people pay attention to what you say and

3692
02:26:02,070 --> 02:26:00,160
this uh was sent to me earlier today

3693
02:26:04,469 --> 02:26:02,080
and and i found it interesting it was

3694
02:26:07,670 --> 02:26:04,479
something that i missed so i hope that

3695
02:26:10,150 --> 02:26:07,680
you understand this question

3696
02:26:12,389 --> 02:26:10,160
can you please ask lou to expand upon

3697
02:26:16,870 --> 02:26:12,399
what he meant by quote

3698
02:26:18,550 --> 02:26:16,880
human kinds end quote

3699
02:26:21,270 --> 02:26:18,560
do you have any idea what that what

3700
02:26:24,150 --> 02:26:21,280
that's about i do

3701
02:26:27,030 --> 02:26:24,160
yeah it's very personal for me um

3702
02:26:28,550 --> 02:26:27,040
you know we we we put limitations and

3703
02:26:30,070 --> 02:26:28,560
barriers on everything in fact if you

3704
02:26:33,110 --> 02:26:30,080
look at a map i don't know how much time

3705
02:26:34,790 --> 02:26:33,120
we have so i'll try to be brief look

3706
02:26:39,590 --> 02:26:34,800
we are

3707
02:26:42,070 --> 02:26:39,600
realize

3708
02:26:43,990 --> 02:26:42,080
the way we think in some cases has been

3709
02:26:46,790 --> 02:26:44,000
pre-ordained now i i don't want to get

3710
02:26:48,870 --> 02:26:46,800
into the conversation of you know fate

3711
02:26:50,950 --> 02:26:48,880
and things like that but but when you

3712
02:26:52,710 --> 02:26:50,960
look at a city right we have these neat

3713
02:26:53,990 --> 02:26:52,720
little grids north and south east and

3714
02:26:55,349 --> 02:26:54,000
west because

3715
02:26:57,190 --> 02:26:55,359
we want to know where we are we want

3716
02:26:59,510 --> 02:26:57,200
directions we want speed limits on the

3717
02:27:01,830 --> 02:26:59,520
roads and we want to have rules and

3718
02:27:04,070 --> 02:27:01,840
regulations and policies so so we know

3719
02:27:05,750 --> 02:27:04,080
where we fit we know where we are

3720
02:27:07,030 --> 02:27:05,760
physically where we know where we are

3721
02:27:09,349 --> 02:27:07,040
socially we know where we are

3722
02:27:10,630 --> 02:27:09,359
economically and it makes it because we

3723
02:27:12,150 --> 02:27:10,640
as a species would get very

3724
02:27:14,630 --> 02:27:12,160
uncomfortable if we don't know the

3725
02:27:17,750 --> 02:27:14,640
unknown scares the hell out of us right

3726
02:27:21,030 --> 02:27:17,760
um when in reality if you were to

3727
02:27:22,870 --> 02:27:21,040
take a a globe and realize that there is

3728
02:27:24,550 --> 02:27:22,880
no up or down on a globe we're all

3729
02:27:26,710 --> 02:27:24,560
spinning hurtling through space around

3730
02:27:29,349 --> 02:27:26,720
some obscure star in some obscure part

3731
02:27:31,830 --> 02:27:29,359
of a obscure galaxy we call the milky

3732
02:27:34,070 --> 02:27:31,840
way uh and all of this can come to an

3733
02:27:36,950 --> 02:27:34,080
abrupt end at any moment we don't really

3734
02:27:38,950 --> 02:27:36,960
decide you know whether we hit it to a a

3735
02:27:40,389 --> 02:27:38,960
particularly dusty part of the cosmos in

3736
02:27:43,349 --> 02:27:40,399
our galaxy and all of a sudden that were

3737
02:27:45,830 --> 02:27:43,359
bombarded by by by life-ending comets

3738
02:27:47,510 --> 02:27:45,840
and meteors at any moment

3739
02:27:49,429 --> 02:27:47,520
we simply don't know

3740
02:27:51,270 --> 02:27:49,439
and we don't like to think about those

3741
02:27:53,670 --> 02:27:51,280
things but the universe is huge the

3742
02:27:55,670 --> 02:27:53,680
universe is grandiose

3743
02:27:57,830 --> 02:27:55,680
and um

3744
02:27:59,670 --> 02:27:57,840
it you know we like to look at mankind

3745
02:28:01,830 --> 02:27:59,680
when we see mankind as having you know

3746
02:28:04,230 --> 02:28:01,840
two arms two legs you know

3747
02:28:05,910 --> 02:28:04,240
ten fingers and and what that kind of

3748
02:28:07,510 --> 02:28:05,920
defines who we are as a human being and

3749
02:28:09,030 --> 02:28:07,520
as a species but

3750
02:28:10,870 --> 02:28:09,040
but maybe there's a there's a maybe

3751
02:28:13,190 --> 02:28:10,880
there's a larger family maybe there's

3752
02:28:16,230 --> 02:28:13,200
there's something bigger to it maybe

3753
02:28:18,230 --> 02:28:16,240
maybe we have a lot more in common

3754
02:28:20,630 --> 02:28:18,240
in fact life

3755
02:28:21,910 --> 02:28:20,640
in the universe has more in common with

3756
02:28:24,630 --> 02:28:21,920
itself

3757
02:28:26,389 --> 02:28:24,640
and a lot of what we do in the way we

3758
02:28:28,070 --> 02:28:26,399
think you know we think in in binary

3759
02:28:29,270 --> 02:28:28,080
terms if you you ask the average person

3760
02:28:31,750 --> 02:28:29,280
how are you feeling today they say i'm

3761
02:28:33,190 --> 02:28:31,760
feeling good or i'm feeling bad you know

3762
02:28:35,670 --> 02:28:33,200
and you say are you hot or you're cold

3763
02:28:37,750 --> 02:28:35,680
i'm hot i'm cold you know if i go right

3764
02:28:40,070 --> 02:28:37,760
or do i go left we look at life in

3765
02:28:42,309 --> 02:28:40,080
extremes in in a binary sense do i do

3766
02:28:43,910 --> 02:28:42,319
this or do i do that when in reality

3767
02:28:46,230 --> 02:28:43,920
mother nature doesn't work that way she

3768
02:28:47,990 --> 02:28:46,240
works in in wondrous diagonals and

3769
02:28:49,990 --> 02:28:48,000
fractals and

3770
02:28:52,309 --> 02:28:50,000
and you know going left to right may

3771
02:28:54,230 --> 02:28:52,319
make sense if you are coming up to the

3772
02:28:56,630 --> 02:28:54,240
edge of a cliff but in reality life is

3773
02:28:58,389 --> 02:28:56,640
more like a minefield and frankly going

3774
02:28:59,910 --> 02:28:58,399
left or going right could kill you just

3775
02:29:02,309 --> 02:28:59,920
the same sometimes

3776
02:29:04,550 --> 02:29:02,319
the right decision is is no decision

3777
02:29:06,309 --> 02:29:04,560
sometimes you want to go up or down or

3778
02:29:08,150 --> 02:29:06,319
backwards right

3779
02:29:09,750 --> 02:29:08,160
and we have to force ourselves

3780
02:29:11,670 --> 02:29:09,760
especially with this topic to start

3781
02:29:14,309 --> 02:29:11,680
thinking about it that way look let me

3782
02:29:15,510 --> 02:29:14,319
give you another example um

3783
02:29:17,190 --> 02:29:15,520
if something were to land on the white

3784
02:29:19,510 --> 02:29:17,200
house lawn tomorrow

3785
02:29:21,030 --> 02:29:19,520
what are the first questions the first

3786
02:29:23,030 --> 02:29:21,040
two fundamental questions that are going

3787
02:29:24,389 --> 02:29:23,040
to be asked by our military leaders it's

3788
02:29:26,389 --> 02:29:24,399
really simple

3789
02:29:29,110 --> 02:29:26,399
do i extend a hand for a handshake or do

3790
02:29:30,950 --> 02:29:29,120
i point an m16 at it right

3791
02:29:32,550 --> 02:29:30,960
well that's wrong that neither one of us

3792
02:29:35,510 --> 02:29:32,560
might be right we're looking at the

3793
02:29:37,110 --> 02:29:35,520
entire entire equation incorrectly

3794
02:29:38,630 --> 02:29:37,120
we don't have enough variables we don't

3795
02:29:40,790 --> 02:29:38,640
have enough data to even solve the

3796
02:29:43,190 --> 02:29:40,800
equation it's too early to solve that

3797
02:29:46,070 --> 02:29:43,200
equation and in fact either one of those

3798
02:29:48,230 --> 02:29:46,080
may wind up being bad for us

3799
02:29:49,510 --> 02:29:48,240
may not maybe not be a good good good

3800
02:29:51,910 --> 02:29:49,520
solution

3801
02:29:54,150 --> 02:29:51,920
and and this is we have to force

3802
02:29:56,790 --> 02:29:54,160
ourselves to stop thinking

3803
02:30:00,230 --> 02:29:56,800
in in terms of simple rudimentary

3804
02:30:01,830 --> 02:30:00,240
humanistic ways that we do it because

3805
02:30:03,270 --> 02:30:01,840
mother nature has proven to us over and

3806
02:30:04,870 --> 02:30:03,280
over again she doesn't work that way

3807
02:30:06,230 --> 02:30:04,880
imagine if you had to go to work and the

3808
02:30:07,750 --> 02:30:06,240
only thing you could do to get to work

3809
02:30:10,070 --> 02:30:07,760
was take a series of right or left-hand

3810
02:30:11,429 --> 02:30:10,080
turns and not go straight or not go

3811
02:30:13,750 --> 02:30:11,439
diagonal right it'll take you a hell of

3812
02:30:16,309 --> 02:30:13,760
a lot to really inefficient way

3813
02:30:18,070 --> 02:30:16,319
to drive to work and yet that's

3814
02:30:20,230 --> 02:30:18,080
precisely how we think as a human

3815
02:30:22,710 --> 02:30:20,240
species we think in these what we call

3816
02:30:24,150 --> 02:30:22,720
some scientists call them cardiosocial

3817
02:30:26,550 --> 02:30:24,160
um

3818
02:30:28,630 --> 02:30:26,560
terms because some scientists have

3819
02:30:29,990 --> 02:30:28,640
speculated the very first nine months or

3820
02:30:32,309 --> 02:30:30,000
eight months or seven months depending

3821
02:30:34,710 --> 02:30:32,319
who you are of our existence is spent in

3822
02:30:37,110 --> 02:30:34,720
our mother's womb and the only thing we

3823
02:30:38,950 --> 02:30:37,120
are subject to is the rhythmic heartbeat

3824
02:30:40,950 --> 02:30:38,960
of our mother's heart that's that is

3825
02:30:42,950 --> 02:30:40,960
what we experience we live breathe it

3826
02:30:45,750 --> 02:30:42,960
feel it for for nine months of our

3827
02:30:47,670 --> 02:30:45,760
existence and it's just on off on off

3828
02:30:49,750 --> 02:30:47,680
and some scientists speculate that may

3829
02:30:53,030 --> 02:30:49,760
actually be the reason why

3830
02:30:55,590 --> 02:30:53,040
from a sociological perspective we

3831
02:30:57,510 --> 02:30:55,600
look at anthropomological perspective as

3832
02:30:59,830 --> 02:30:57,520
well anthropology

3833
02:31:01,270 --> 02:30:59,840
why we look at life the way we do but

3834
02:31:02,870 --> 02:31:01,280
that's flawed

3835
02:31:05,349 --> 02:31:02,880
scientists are not saying that that may

3836
02:31:07,190 --> 02:31:05,359
not be the right way to look at look at

3837
02:31:09,190 --> 02:31:07,200
life in the universe in nature we have

3838
02:31:11,910 --> 02:31:09,200
to be able to expand

3839
02:31:14,950 --> 02:31:11,920
our understanding and and our reasoning

3840
02:31:17,750 --> 02:31:14,960
and and the way we process data

3841
02:31:21,590 --> 02:31:17,760
um is just as important as

3842
02:31:23,910 --> 02:31:21,600
uh confronting uh life beyond uh our our

3843
02:31:25,590 --> 02:31:23,920
our planet because

3844
02:31:28,469 --> 02:31:25,600
we have to be ready for that we have to

3845
02:31:29,910 --> 02:31:28,479
be prepared to think in in non-human

3846
02:31:31,510 --> 02:31:29,920
terms and

3847
02:31:32,469 --> 02:31:31,520
that's really hard that's a hell of a

3848
02:31:34,870 --> 02:31:32,479
challenge

3849
02:31:37,429 --> 02:31:34,880
are are we prepared you know that's the

3850
02:31:38,790 --> 02:31:37,439
big question are we prepared both

3851
02:31:39,830 --> 02:31:38,800
emotionally

3852
02:31:41,670 --> 02:31:39,840
uh

3853
02:31:45,270 --> 02:31:41,680
you know you have the whole conscious

3854
02:31:47,510 --> 02:31:45,280
aspect of this uh globally too as well

3855
02:31:49,270 --> 02:31:47,520
what that reaction would be and there

3856
02:31:51,670 --> 02:31:49,280
are some that say you know what we're

3857
02:31:54,469 --> 02:31:51,680
pretty acclimated now we've all seen

3858
02:31:56,630 --> 02:31:54,479
independence day 50 times it's not like

3859
02:32:00,150 --> 02:31:56,640
we don't think about are we alone in the

3860
02:32:03,190 --> 02:32:00,160
universe but are we really prepared for

3861
02:32:05,190 --> 02:32:03,200
avi loeb's friggin picture right

3862
02:32:06,630 --> 02:32:05,200
where where that is

3863
02:32:08,070 --> 02:32:06,640
right there

3864
02:32:09,910 --> 02:32:08,080
in front of us there's a question

3865
02:32:11,110 --> 02:32:09,920
already look look at social media no

3866
02:32:12,870 --> 02:32:11,120
we're not we're not even prepared to

3867
02:32:14,950 --> 02:32:12,880
have a conversation yet we can't even

3868
02:32:16,389 --> 02:32:14,960
agree to have the conversation

3869
02:32:18,230 --> 02:32:16,399
look at look at your right i don't know

3870
02:32:20,309 --> 02:32:18,240
how i don't have your your feed on

3871
02:32:21,990 --> 02:32:20,319
social media but but i know i've got

3872
02:32:23,349 --> 02:32:22,000
those usual round of haters coming out

3873
02:32:24,389 --> 02:32:23,359
there and all they want to do is stifle

3874
02:32:26,630 --> 02:32:24,399
the conversation

3875
02:32:28,230 --> 02:32:26,640
no we're not ready and why look you the

3876
02:32:29,750 --> 02:32:28,240
proof is right there in front of you

3877
02:32:31,030 --> 02:32:29,760
right there those people they're proving

3878
02:32:33,190 --> 02:32:31,040
that we can't have the conversation

3879
02:32:34,950 --> 02:32:33,200
we're not ready as a species because you

3880
02:32:36,389 --> 02:32:34,960
know we can't even we can't even agree

3881
02:32:38,550 --> 02:32:36,399
to disagree we can't even have a civil

3882
02:32:40,230 --> 02:32:38,560
conversation about this about this topic

3883
02:32:44,389 --> 02:32:40,240
without getting personal right and

3884
02:32:47,190 --> 02:32:44,399
attacking people it's it's it's pathetic

3885
02:32:48,469 --> 02:32:47,200
it's it no we're not you know half of

3886
02:32:49,670 --> 02:32:48,479
these people can't even balance their

3887
02:32:52,790 --> 02:32:49,680
own checkbook

3888
02:32:54,309 --> 02:32:52,800
you know so so no i don't i don't

3889
02:32:55,910 --> 02:32:54,319
i don't think we're ready but i still

3890
02:32:57,110 --> 02:32:55,920
think we have to have the conversation

3891
02:32:59,190 --> 02:32:57,120
whether we're ready or not it's

3892
02:33:01,190 --> 02:32:59,200
happening and we need and it's go we

3893
02:33:05,030 --> 02:33:01,200
need to be prepared for it you know

3894
02:33:07,590 --> 02:33:05,040
rarely is mankind ever ready for for a

3895
02:33:09,190 --> 02:33:07,600
paradigm changing moment but we adapt

3896
02:33:11,990 --> 02:33:09,200
because we are a species that adapts

3897
02:33:13,590 --> 02:33:12,000
very well and so i think regardless if

3898
02:33:16,469 --> 02:33:13,600
we're prepared or not we need to have

3899
02:33:17,990 --> 02:33:16,479
the conversation now uh i know that

3900
02:33:20,950 --> 02:33:18,000
we're out of time but i'm not out of

3901
02:33:22,630 --> 02:33:20,960
questions i wanted to

3902
02:33:25,750 --> 02:33:22,640
just stay with me luke you brought up

3903
02:33:29,349 --> 02:33:25,760
bill nelson of of nasa a couple of times

3904
02:33:31,990 --> 02:33:29,359
tonight and so let's table him over here

3905
02:33:34,550 --> 02:33:32,000
and then we have radcliffe and his con

3906
02:33:36,469 --> 02:33:34,560
and his comments from last year two

3907
02:33:39,830 --> 02:33:36,479
different

3908
02:33:42,389 --> 02:33:39,840
diametrically opposed individuals

3909
02:33:44,870 --> 02:33:42,399
uh all saying the same thing

3910
02:33:47,030 --> 02:33:44,880
and radcliffe's comments about our

3911
02:33:48,550 --> 02:33:47,040
satellite system picking up fast walkers

3912
02:33:49,750 --> 02:33:48,560
and we're tracking this stuff and we're

3913
02:33:51,990 --> 02:33:49,760
seeing the stuff coming into our

3914
02:33:54,309 --> 02:33:52,000
atmosphere we're also seeing it leave

3915
02:33:55,830 --> 02:33:54,319
was very interesting and then you have

3916
02:33:58,230 --> 02:33:55,840
bill nelson

3917
02:34:00,309 --> 02:33:58,240
saying virtually the same thing and and

3918
02:34:03,030 --> 02:34:00,319
both of them directly

3919
02:34:05,750 --> 02:34:03,040
going at the e.t issue and not meeting

3920
02:34:08,870 --> 02:34:05,760
around the bush bill nelson

3921
02:34:10,550 --> 02:34:08,880
did not pull any punches he went

3922
02:34:13,349 --> 02:34:10,560
straight at it

3923
02:34:15,910 --> 02:34:13,359
um what do we make of that

3924
02:34:19,590 --> 02:34:15,920
data collection coming from outer space

3925
02:34:21,429 --> 02:34:19,600
not the tic tac you know over san diego

3926
02:34:24,230 --> 02:34:21,439
we're talking about tracking with

3927
02:34:25,910 --> 02:34:24,240
sophisticated systems that are in orbit

3928
02:34:28,309 --> 02:34:25,920
around earth

3929
02:34:31,110 --> 02:34:28,319
seeing things come in as interstellar

3930
02:34:33,510 --> 02:34:31,120
objects and heading to earth

3931
02:34:34,950 --> 02:34:33,520
well i mean you just said it yourself

3932
02:34:36,710 --> 02:34:34,960
i mean that's very compelling isn't it

3933
02:34:39,030 --> 02:34:36,720
look it's it's no no secret that nasa's

3934
02:34:40,870 --> 02:34:39,040
been looking for microbial life

3935
02:34:43,110 --> 02:34:40,880
on places like mars

3936
02:34:45,110 --> 02:34:43,120
uh for for a long time and spending a

3937
02:34:46,790 --> 02:34:45,120
lot of taxpayer money doing it right and

3938
02:34:48,230 --> 02:34:46,800
it's not a surprise that organizations

3939
02:34:50,550 --> 02:34:48,240
like seti have been looking for techno

3940
02:34:52,870 --> 02:34:50,560
signatures in our own milky way and

3941
02:34:54,870 --> 02:34:52,880
spending a lot of money doing that um

3942
02:34:56,230 --> 02:34:54,880
you know the only the only thing we're

3943
02:34:58,389 --> 02:34:56,240
proposing is that maybe it's already

3944
02:35:00,630 --> 02:34:58,399
here on this planet you know you may not

3945
02:35:01,990 --> 02:35:00,640
have to look quite so far um and there

3946
02:35:04,070 --> 02:35:02,000
seems to be some information that

3947
02:35:05,590 --> 02:35:04,080
substantiates that that there's enough

3948
02:35:07,990 --> 02:35:05,600
information compelling information that

3949
02:35:12,389 --> 02:35:08,000
says hey look there's something here

3950
02:35:14,630 --> 02:35:12,399
um so no i i i commend bill nelson for

3951
02:35:16,630 --> 02:35:14,640
for for championing this cause i i think

3952
02:35:18,389 --> 02:35:16,640
he took a lot of risk doing it and i

3953
02:35:22,469 --> 02:35:18,399
think history will remember him very

3954
02:35:25,110 --> 02:35:22,479
kindly and uh uh one oh is is that

3955
02:35:27,990 --> 02:35:25,120
jennifer saying time's up

3956
02:35:31,590 --> 02:35:28,000
time's up dinner dinner's on the table

3957
02:35:35,110 --> 02:35:31,600
tell church uh to wrap this thing up um

3958
02:35:37,030 --> 02:35:35,120
i love jennifer um one last uh two i

3959
02:35:39,270 --> 02:35:37,040
have two quick questions and then uh

3960
02:35:41,670 --> 02:35:39,280
we'll we'll say good night

3961
02:35:44,790 --> 02:35:41,680
um you have made

3962
02:35:46,630 --> 02:35:44,800
some comments uh on the show and

3963
02:35:50,710 --> 02:35:46,640
elsewhere in the past

3964
02:35:53,510 --> 02:35:50,720
that some of this may be

3965
02:35:55,990 --> 02:35:53,520
living here on earth maybe in the oceans

3966
02:35:58,469 --> 02:35:56,000
that that this is something that

3967
02:36:01,030 --> 02:35:58,479
may be extraterrestrial in the beginning

3968
02:36:03,429 --> 02:36:01,040
but now they're just here

3969
02:36:06,389 --> 02:36:03,439
do you feel that the navy

3970
02:36:08,309 --> 02:36:06,399
knows some of these locations um that

3971
02:36:11,830 --> 02:36:08,319
are out there is is the information

3972
02:36:15,830 --> 02:36:13,270
um

3973
02:36:19,030 --> 02:36:15,840
i i think people are aware in the

3974
02:36:20,790 --> 02:36:19,040
government that there may be some some

3975
02:36:23,910 --> 02:36:20,800
some quote unquote hot spots right

3976
02:36:25,990 --> 02:36:23,920
vernacular areas that that have a high

3977
02:36:27,349 --> 02:36:26,000
degree of frequency of uap activity i'm

3978
02:36:29,349 --> 02:36:27,359
not going to go and expound upon that

3979
02:36:31,190 --> 02:36:29,359
right now right uh simply because i want

3980
02:36:33,030 --> 02:36:31,200
to allow you know

3981
02:36:35,910 --> 02:36:33,040
the government to do its job but

3982
02:36:37,510 --> 02:36:35,920
yeah that that conversation has occurred

3983
02:36:39,270 --> 02:36:37,520
last question

3984
02:36:40,550 --> 02:36:39,280
uh the

3985
02:36:44,550 --> 02:36:40,560
rumor

3986
02:36:46,389 --> 02:36:44,560
about a triangle object uh

3987
02:36:47,910 --> 02:36:46,399
leaving

3988
02:36:49,270 --> 02:36:47,920
the ocean

3989
02:36:52,309 --> 02:36:49,280
flying up

3990
02:36:54,950 --> 02:36:52,319
uh has been rumored to circulate uh

3991
02:36:56,870 --> 02:36:54,960
amongst the intelligence agencies it has

3992
02:36:58,630 --> 02:36:56,880
been observed and talked about

3993
02:37:00,950 --> 02:36:58,640
and it is a clear

3994
02:37:02,950 --> 02:37:00,960
definitive picture

3995
02:37:07,270 --> 02:37:02,960
of a triangle object coming out of the

3996
02:37:10,550 --> 02:37:07,280
water have you seen this image

3997
02:37:12,630 --> 02:37:10,560
i am very much aware of it

3998
02:37:14,870 --> 02:37:12,640
have you seen

3999
02:37:17,429 --> 02:37:14,880
the image

4000
02:37:20,550 --> 02:37:17,439
i have seen some very compelling images

4001
02:37:22,630 --> 02:37:20,560
i will not say specifically which one

4002
02:37:24,469 --> 02:37:22,640
uh or which ones

4003
02:37:27,190 --> 02:37:24,479
but i am very well aware of that

4004
02:37:30,469 --> 02:37:27,200
photograph um

4005
02:37:34,469 --> 02:37:30,479
okay how clear is the photograph is it

4006
02:37:36,469 --> 02:37:34,479
is clear as has been reported it's it's

4007
02:37:37,990 --> 02:37:36,479
it's about as clear as looking at the

4008
02:37:40,150 --> 02:37:38,000
guitars in the back of your wall right

4009
02:37:43,110 --> 02:37:40,160
there no kidding

4010
02:37:45,590 --> 02:37:43,120
and uh when when when you see something

4011
02:37:48,790 --> 02:37:45,600
like this okay we don't have to talk

4012
02:37:49,830 --> 02:37:48,800
about the specific image but i am but if

4013
02:37:55,510 --> 02:37:49,840
you

4014
02:37:57,830 --> 02:37:56,469
well

4015
02:38:00,469 --> 02:37:57,840
i think i think you know the answer to

4016
02:38:03,030 --> 02:38:00,479
that already jimmy well you know you

4017
02:38:05,110 --> 02:38:03,040
know where i live and i see some pretty

4018
02:38:09,510 --> 02:38:05,120
interesting things out here

4019
02:38:11,910 --> 02:38:09,520
and and obviously we've got stuff in

4020
02:38:14,150 --> 02:38:11,920
development that is pretty impressive

4021
02:38:17,349 --> 02:38:14,160
and would we would call it science

4022
02:38:20,790 --> 02:38:17,359
fiction right okay i get that

4023
02:38:21,830 --> 02:38:20,800
a flying triangle an anti-gravity

4024
02:38:24,469 --> 02:38:21,840
something

4025
02:38:27,590 --> 02:38:24,479
uh could be ours

4026
02:38:30,230 --> 02:38:27,600
but it could also not be and are you

4027
02:38:32,309 --> 02:38:30,240
suggesting that it didn't feel like

4028
02:38:33,910 --> 02:38:32,319
our technology when you when you saw

4029
02:38:36,950 --> 02:38:33,920
this i can't

4030
02:38:39,270 --> 02:38:36,960
comment on any type of technology that

4031
02:38:41,030 --> 02:38:39,280
we may have that's advanced what i can

4032
02:38:42,870 --> 02:38:41,040
simply say is that

4033
02:38:44,950 --> 02:38:42,880
there's enough compelling evidence and

4034
02:38:47,590 --> 02:38:44,960
information to suggest that what we are

4035
02:38:49,670 --> 02:38:47,600
witnessing is not our technology nor is

4036
02:38:51,590 --> 02:38:49,680
it for an adversarial that's what i'm

4037
02:38:53,830 --> 02:38:51,600
talking about lou elizondo thank you so

4038
02:38:55,990 --> 02:38:53,840
much give my best to jennifer

4039
02:38:57,349 --> 02:38:56,000
will you and tell her tell her thank you

4040
02:38:58,870 --> 02:38:57,359
for

4041
02:39:01,110 --> 02:38:58,880
putting up with me tonight you're the

4042
02:39:03,110 --> 02:39:01,120
absolute very best we will talk tomorrow

4043
02:39:04,950 --> 02:39:03,120
have a great night go enjoy your dinner

4044
02:39:07,110 --> 02:39:04,960
thank you lou thank you jimmy and thank

4045
02:39:08,469 --> 02:39:07,120
you to your your your amazing audience

4046
02:39:10,150 --> 02:39:08,479
always wonderful to be here wouldn't

4047
02:39:12,469 --> 02:39:10,160
spend time with you guys you're the very

4048
02:39:14,950 --> 02:39:12,479
best lou thank you so much man continued

4049
02:39:15,990 --> 02:39:14,960
rolling that rock uphill

4050
02:39:18,309 --> 02:39:16,000
you got it

4051
02:39:20,150 --> 02:39:18,319
lou elizondo all right i'm gonna take a

4052
02:39:21,830 --> 02:39:20,160
quick break thank you lou

4053
02:39:24,790 --> 02:39:21,840
and uh and i really mean it uh

4054
02:39:27,270 --> 02:39:24,800
jennifer's the best and uh she's the

4055
02:39:29,830 --> 02:39:27,280
shot caller so thank you jennifer thank

4056
02:39:32,070 --> 02:39:29,840
you i know she's listening right now lou

4057
02:39:34,309 --> 02:39:32,080
you have a good night my man

4058
02:39:35,990 --> 02:39:34,319
thank you so much

4059
02:39:37,830 --> 02:39:36,000
i'm yours jimmy church this is fade to

4060
02:39:39,110 --> 02:39:37,840
black i'm going to take a quick break

4061
02:39:41,030 --> 02:39:39,120
and you know what i'm gonna open up the

4062
02:39:42,790 --> 02:39:41,040
phone lines what did you guys

4063
02:39:44,389 --> 02:39:42,800
think and i know that you've got

4064
02:39:45,980 --> 02:39:44,399
opinions and we'll do all of that next

4065
02:39:59,270 --> 02:39:45,990
stay with me

4066
02:40:02,950 --> 02:40:01,429
you're listening to jimmy church and

4067
02:40:07,910 --> 02:40:02,960
fade to black

4068
02:40:13,190 --> 02:40:10,309
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4069
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4070
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4077
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whoo

4165
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that was a great conversation

4166
02:45:21,750 --> 02:45:20,080
uh i just popped over in uh

4167
02:45:24,070 --> 02:45:21,760
the youtube chat for a second i've been

4168
02:45:27,110 --> 02:45:24,080
on twitter all night i literally

4169
02:45:30,309 --> 02:45:27,120
uh spent 30 seconds in youtube tonight

4170
02:45:31,670 --> 02:45:30,319
uh so much to unpack and that's what i

4171
02:45:34,309 --> 02:45:31,680
tweeted

4172
02:45:35,910 --> 02:45:34,319
so much to unpack uh to go back i've

4173
02:45:37,910 --> 02:45:35,920
opened up the phone lines i might have

4174
02:45:40,870 --> 02:45:37,920
time for one or two calls

4175
02:45:44,150 --> 02:45:40,880
uh so uh everybody just stay right there

4176
02:45:47,269 --> 02:45:44,160
um so much to unpack now

4177
02:45:49,750 --> 02:45:47,279
uh a few things stick out uh

4178
02:45:54,790 --> 02:45:52,710
and uh i'm i'm gonna say this first okay

4179
02:45:56,710 --> 02:45:54,800
the first thing that i mean just comes

4180
02:46:00,150 --> 02:45:56,720
to mind

4181
02:46:03,349 --> 02:46:00,160
that lou said early on in this broadcast

4182
02:46:05,190 --> 02:46:03,359
and i think that we should all take note

4183
02:46:07,910 --> 02:46:05,200
that uh yes he just got back from

4184
02:46:09,030 --> 02:46:07,920
washington and uh

4185
02:46:11,110 --> 02:46:09,040
um

4186
02:46:12,870 --> 02:46:11,120
lou uh i'll just tell you he was texting

4187
02:46:15,269 --> 02:46:12,880
me from the plane

4188
02:46:17,429 --> 02:46:15,279
and uh which was interesting

4189
02:46:18,790 --> 02:46:17,439
and uh and then called me uh when he

4190
02:46:20,150 --> 02:46:18,800
landed

4191
02:46:22,950 --> 02:46:20,160
and uh

4192
02:46:25,429 --> 02:46:22,960
and we we talked about a few things

4193
02:46:26,469 --> 02:46:25,439
and one of those he mentioned tonight

4194
02:46:28,550 --> 02:46:26,479
and

4195
02:46:30,389 --> 02:46:28,560
which i found

4196
02:46:33,830 --> 02:46:30,399
everybody should just take note and not

4197
02:46:36,309 --> 02:46:33,840
forget what he said he said

4198
02:46:38,870 --> 02:46:36,319
that there were incidents

4199
02:46:41,510 --> 02:46:38,880
last week and the week before

4200
02:46:44,790 --> 02:46:41,520
uh without getting into specifics and he

4201
02:46:46,630 --> 02:46:44,800
also said uh i'm going to expand on that

4202
02:46:47,990 --> 02:46:46,640
in just a second

4203
02:46:49,670 --> 02:46:48,000
that it was other branches of the

4204
02:46:52,710 --> 02:46:49,680
military

4205
02:46:53,830 --> 02:46:52,720
uh that are reporting things now right

4206
02:46:56,309 --> 02:46:53,840
there

4207
02:46:58,550 --> 02:46:56,319
the other branches of the military which

4208
02:47:01,030 --> 02:46:58,560
obviously i pointed out to lou

4209
02:47:03,590 --> 02:47:01,040
uh you have the navy you have the air

4210
02:47:05,510 --> 02:47:03,600
force the marines the army and the coast

4211
02:47:07,510 --> 02:47:05,520
guard

4212
02:47:08,469 --> 02:47:07,520
who was doing this reporting who saw

4213
02:47:09,910 --> 02:47:08,479
what

4214
02:47:12,630 --> 02:47:09,920
and

4215
02:47:14,150 --> 02:47:12,640
that uh these incidents are happening

4216
02:47:16,550 --> 02:47:14,160
all the time now

4217
02:47:19,269 --> 02:47:16,560
now for him to say i don't think it was

4218
02:47:22,070 --> 02:47:19,279
a slip i just think that uh he's uh

4219
02:47:24,230 --> 02:47:22,080
speaking in in a generality but that

4220
02:47:26,790 --> 02:47:24,240
uh you know last week in the week before

4221
02:47:28,230 --> 02:47:26,800
that this is happening now this is going

4222
02:47:32,070 --> 02:47:28,240
on now

4223
02:47:35,349 --> 02:47:32,080
and i then asked him if these are we

4224
02:47:37,830 --> 02:47:35,359
talking about tic tacs right is is are

4225
02:47:39,910 --> 02:47:37,840
are we going right there and

4226
02:47:40,790 --> 02:47:39,920
he said yes

4227
02:47:43,110 --> 02:47:40,800
so

4228
02:47:45,750 --> 02:47:43,120
isn't that interesting now are we going

4229
02:47:46,790 --> 02:47:45,760
to hear more about this i would like to

4230
02:47:49,510 --> 02:47:46,800
know

4231
02:47:51,670 --> 02:47:49,520
i don't think it'll come from lou

4232
02:47:53,910 --> 02:47:51,680
but i think that somebody out there like

4233
02:47:57,269 --> 02:47:53,920
john greenwald

4234
02:47:58,230 --> 02:47:57,279
needs to write susan goff gal golf

4235
02:48:01,510 --> 02:47:58,240
and and

4236
02:48:02,630 --> 02:48:01,520
and ask about recent incident reports

4237
02:48:04,710 --> 02:48:02,640
and

4238
02:48:06,710 --> 02:48:04,720
what has been going on

4239
02:48:08,950 --> 02:48:06,720
and without

4240
02:48:10,070 --> 02:48:08,960
revealing uh

4241
02:48:11,910 --> 02:48:10,080
security

4242
02:48:15,990 --> 02:48:11,920
issues

4243
02:48:20,150 --> 02:48:16,000
are these now starting to be reported

4244
02:48:22,550 --> 02:48:20,160
as requested uh in the legislation that

4245
02:48:24,550 --> 02:48:22,560
this stuff needs to happen now find that

4246
02:48:27,990 --> 02:48:24,560
very very interesting

4247
02:48:29,429 --> 02:48:28,000
now um i'm not familiar this is a point

4248
02:48:32,309 --> 02:48:29,439
number two

4249
02:48:36,150 --> 02:48:32,319
i'm not familiar with uh

4250
02:48:37,750 --> 02:48:36,160
this uh nsa uh report that he referenced

4251
02:48:38,630 --> 02:48:37,760
and and read

4252
02:48:41,510 --> 02:48:38,640
um

4253
02:48:42,630 --> 02:48:41,520
that i guess lou got that today

4254
02:48:45,269 --> 02:48:42,640
so

4255
02:48:47,590 --> 02:48:45,279
is this a recent report

4256
02:48:49,990 --> 02:48:47,600
now i wanna you know is this from last

4257
02:48:53,110 --> 02:48:50,000
week is it this year

4258
02:48:56,230 --> 02:48:53,120
is it is it older i think we need to to

4259
02:48:59,750 --> 02:48:56,240
find that out i will defer to

4260
02:49:01,349 --> 02:48:59,760
uh our uh fate or not audience uh what

4261
02:49:03,030 --> 02:49:01,359
does everybody know about this and if

4262
02:49:04,790 --> 02:49:03,040
you have a link to this

4263
02:49:07,670 --> 02:49:04,800
um i will see if i can get a copy of

4264
02:49:10,830 --> 02:49:07,680
this report myself too as well

4265
02:49:13,269 --> 02:49:10,840
um and and glean some information from

4266
02:49:15,349 --> 02:49:13,279
it um but

4267
02:49:16,870 --> 02:49:15,359
the headline on the report is high

4268
02:49:21,190 --> 02:49:16,880
frequencies

4269
02:49:22,070 --> 02:49:21,200
uh coming from an alien species

4270
02:49:24,070 --> 02:49:22,080
uh

4271
02:49:26,710 --> 02:49:24,080
directed at contact

4272
02:49:28,790 --> 02:49:26,720
so that would we need to really stop and

4273
02:49:30,630 --> 02:49:28,800
think about what was said there

4274
02:49:32,230 --> 02:49:30,640
um now this may be something that

4275
02:49:33,750 --> 02:49:32,240
everybody else knows about is the first

4276
02:49:38,309 --> 02:49:33,760
time i've heard about it

4277
02:49:39,750 --> 02:49:38,319
and lou indicated that he got this today

4278
02:49:41,670 --> 02:49:39,760
so

4279
02:49:42,630 --> 02:49:41,680
how old is this report has it been out

4280
02:49:45,269 --> 02:49:42,640
there

4281
02:49:48,150 --> 02:49:45,279
um he said it was a classified report is

4282
02:49:49,510 --> 02:49:48,160
it unclassified now is it is it leaked i

4283
02:49:50,469 --> 02:49:49,520
don't know i don't know anything about

4284
02:49:52,870 --> 02:49:50,479
this but

4285
02:49:54,389 --> 02:49:52,880
we need to think about uh that that

4286
02:49:55,910 --> 02:49:54,399
section of the interview tonight in that

4287
02:49:57,750 --> 02:49:55,920
conversation

4288
02:49:59,750 --> 02:49:57,760
that was uh

4289
02:50:03,429 --> 02:49:59,760
very interesting now

4290
02:50:05,349 --> 02:50:03,439
um other points uh that

4291
02:50:08,630 --> 02:50:05,359
uh i think uh were

4292
02:50:09,750 --> 02:50:08,640
very important one

4293
02:50:10,630 --> 02:50:09,760
that

4294
02:50:13,190 --> 02:50:10,640
lou

4295
02:50:15,750 --> 02:50:13,200
is indicating and he said he

4296
02:50:18,309 --> 02:50:15,760
you know he's not a betting man but that

4297
02:50:21,429 --> 02:50:18,319
2022

4298
02:50:23,030 --> 02:50:21,439
could see some serious things surface as

4299
02:50:24,230 --> 02:50:23,040
we move along

4300
02:50:27,190 --> 02:50:24,240
and

4301
02:50:32,550 --> 02:50:29,429
how i read into this

4302
02:50:34,630 --> 02:50:32,560
is we have to picture for a second

4303
02:50:37,110 --> 02:50:34,640
what lou and chris are doing

4304
02:50:38,790 --> 02:50:37,120
and going to washington dc and having

4305
02:50:39,830 --> 02:50:38,800
conversations

4306
02:50:40,870 --> 02:50:39,840
with

4307
02:50:43,349 --> 02:50:40,880
uh

4308
02:50:45,910 --> 02:50:43,359
the the officials in government and the

4309
02:50:49,030 --> 02:50:45,920
military that they are doing

4310
02:50:51,910 --> 02:50:49,040
certainly something is uh

4311
02:50:54,309 --> 02:50:51,920
uh indicating

4312
02:50:55,990 --> 02:50:54,319
something moving forward

4313
02:50:58,710 --> 02:50:56,000
very quickly

4314
02:51:01,030 --> 02:50:58,720
now i don't know

4315
02:51:02,309 --> 02:51:01,040
if this is like a package

4316
02:51:04,389 --> 02:51:02,319
right

4317
02:51:07,269 --> 02:51:04,399
is there images is there

4318
02:51:09,349 --> 02:51:07,279
uh testimony are there eyewitnesses

4319
02:51:11,750 --> 02:51:09,359
military or otherwise

4320
02:51:14,870 --> 02:51:11,760
um is uh

4321
02:51:18,870 --> 02:51:14,880
uh is it uh something

4322
02:51:20,550 --> 02:51:18,880
uh involving uh a government reveal of

4323
02:51:22,950 --> 02:51:20,560
of some kind

4324
02:51:24,150 --> 02:51:22,960
uh and and how this is moving forward

4325
02:51:26,790 --> 02:51:24,160
but that's

4326
02:51:30,870 --> 02:51:26,800
that's the vibe that i get here

4327
02:51:33,110 --> 02:51:30,880
that there is something on the horizon

4328
02:51:34,870 --> 02:51:33,120
that is about

4329
02:51:38,230 --> 02:51:34,880
to go

4330
02:51:39,269 --> 02:51:38,240
i'm excited about that and i think that

4331
02:51:40,070 --> 02:51:39,279
uh

4332
02:51:41,269 --> 02:51:40,080
and

4333
02:51:43,429 --> 02:51:41,279
again

4334
02:51:45,030 --> 02:51:43,439
this is just me speaking

4335
02:51:47,750 --> 02:51:45,040
i i certainly

4336
02:51:49,429 --> 02:51:47,760
collect a lot of information that i

4337
02:51:52,070 --> 02:51:49,439
think it's going to come in waves this

4338
02:51:53,910 --> 02:51:52,080
year i think that there is going to be

4339
02:51:56,150 --> 02:51:53,920
a few

4340
02:52:00,550 --> 02:51:56,160
few big moments in history that are

4341
02:52:03,510 --> 02:52:00,560
going to happen in 2022. i can't uh uh

4342
02:52:05,910 --> 02:52:03,520
i'll let it unfold not only publicly but

4343
02:52:07,750 --> 02:52:05,920
on the show as it happens but i think

4344
02:52:08,790 --> 02:52:07,760
that's what we are dealing with right

4345
02:52:09,910 --> 02:52:08,800
now

4346
02:52:11,830 --> 02:52:09,920
and

4347
02:52:15,830 --> 02:52:11,840
um i think that with all of the

4348
02:52:17,670 --> 02:52:15,840
conversations that i've had with lou

4349
02:52:19,349 --> 02:52:17,680
on this show

4350
02:52:22,469 --> 02:52:19,359
over the years

4351
02:52:24,550 --> 02:52:22,479
tonight was was very direct

4352
02:52:27,830 --> 02:52:24,560
um i don't think that lou was holding

4353
02:52:31,670 --> 02:52:27,840
back um i asked him directly a couple of

4354
02:52:35,590 --> 02:52:33,830
is he

4355
02:52:37,110 --> 02:52:35,600
somebody that is sitting on the

4356
02:52:38,389 --> 02:52:37,120
knowledge

4357
02:52:41,349 --> 02:52:38,399
the secrets

4358
02:52:42,630 --> 02:52:41,359
or is he somebody that is

4359
02:52:44,710 --> 02:52:42,640
forcing

4360
02:52:47,910 --> 02:52:44,720
that information to come out

4361
02:52:49,269 --> 02:52:47,920
you know what what's his job what how

4362
02:52:50,550 --> 02:52:49,279
who is he

4363
02:52:53,510 --> 02:52:50,560
and he said

4364
02:52:57,349 --> 02:52:53,520
i'm i'm sitting on the information

4365
02:53:01,349 --> 02:52:57,359
so so what is it specifically

4366
02:53:03,349 --> 02:53:01,359
yeah yeah i find it uh very very very

4367
02:53:05,510 --> 02:53:03,359
interesting i never looked at lou that

4368
02:53:08,630 --> 02:53:05,520
way before and i have said

4369
02:53:10,710 --> 02:53:08,640
you know uh you know somebody that knows

4370
02:53:12,950 --> 02:53:10,720
you know the real stuff because i've

4371
02:53:14,870 --> 02:53:12,960
said if you

4372
02:53:16,950 --> 02:53:14,880
if you know the name

4373
02:53:18,150 --> 02:53:16,960
of somebody right somebody's out there

4374
02:53:20,389 --> 02:53:18,160
in the public

4375
02:53:22,550 --> 02:53:20,399
uh a government official ex-military

4376
02:53:26,309 --> 02:53:22,560
whatever if you know their name then

4377
02:53:28,070 --> 02:53:26,319
they they they don't know the real stuff

4378
02:53:30,389 --> 02:53:28,080
they wouldn't be out there talking about

4379
02:53:32,150 --> 02:53:30,399
those that really you know that are

4380
02:53:33,670 --> 02:53:32,160
sitting on this

4381
02:53:35,590 --> 02:53:33,680
uh

4382
02:53:38,070 --> 02:53:35,600
they're scared to death

4383
02:53:40,230 --> 02:53:38,080
and that includes an ex-president you

4384
02:53:42,389 --> 02:53:40,240
know that that is the ultimate secret

4385
02:53:44,630 --> 02:53:42,399
right that's the one thing that

4386
02:53:48,070 --> 02:53:44,640
that is not going to

4387
02:53:50,230 --> 02:53:48,080
uh come out or be shared with somebody

4388
02:53:52,150 --> 02:53:50,240
that would talk about it

4389
02:53:53,349 --> 02:53:52,160
and i've always felt that that is indeed

4390
02:53:57,110 --> 02:53:53,359
the case

4391
02:54:00,790 --> 02:53:57,120
except when it comes to lou

4392
02:54:03,190 --> 02:54:00,800
i think that i never really looked at it

4393
02:54:04,790 --> 02:54:03,200
adam this way before but the way that he

4394
02:54:06,469 --> 02:54:04,800
handled the question tonight was an

4395
02:54:08,070 --> 02:54:06,479
interesting one

4396
02:54:10,389 --> 02:54:08,080
because

4397
02:54:12,309 --> 02:54:10,399
i don't think

4398
02:54:13,349 --> 02:54:12,319
that he cares

4399
02:54:14,630 --> 02:54:13,359
about

4400
02:54:16,070 --> 02:54:14,640
um

4401
02:54:18,469 --> 02:54:16,080
uh

4402
02:54:20,950 --> 02:54:18,479
not being the person to push this

4403
02:54:22,230 --> 02:54:20,960
forward that includes chris mellon too

4404
02:54:25,110 --> 02:54:22,240
and that's

4405
02:54:27,190 --> 02:54:25,120
that that really opened up my eyes we

4406
02:54:30,309 --> 02:54:27,200
really have to think about how

4407
02:54:33,349 --> 02:54:30,319
how lou spoke tonight that was a very

4408
02:54:36,070 --> 02:54:33,359
that was a very very good conversation

4409
02:54:36,870 --> 02:54:36,080
um will it be this year oh as i said

4410
02:54:44,230 --> 02:54:36,880
that

4411
02:54:46,469 --> 02:54:44,240
will this be the year

4412
02:54:49,429 --> 02:54:46,479
i've been saying this now for

4413
02:54:51,190 --> 02:54:49,439
for about a year that 20 to the too much

4414
02:54:54,070 --> 02:54:51,200
has been built up

4415
02:54:55,349 --> 02:54:54,080
too many things are now in place

4416
02:55:00,309 --> 02:54:55,359
too many

4417
02:55:01,990 --> 02:55:00,319
and we have to look at all of uh the

4418
02:55:04,550 --> 02:55:02,000
the lines of information that are in

4419
02:55:07,349 --> 02:55:04,560
front of us look at all of them don't

4420
02:55:09,110 --> 02:55:07,359
just specifically look at

4421
02:55:11,030 --> 02:55:09,120
the senate intelligence committee don't

4422
02:55:13,830 --> 02:55:11,040
look specifically at the department of

4423
02:55:17,030 --> 02:55:13,840
defense don't look specifically at odni

4424
02:55:21,429 --> 02:55:17,040
or washington dc in general because we

4425
02:55:23,510 --> 02:55:21,439
do have avi loeb we do have astronomers

4426
02:55:25,990 --> 02:55:23,520
out there that are discovering things

4427
02:55:28,469 --> 02:55:26,000
every single day we now have the james

4428
02:55:31,830 --> 02:55:28,479
webb telescope out there

4429
02:55:34,230 --> 02:55:31,840
we have all of the eyewitnesses

4430
02:55:36,870 --> 02:55:34,240
um in the ufo community that are seeing

4431
02:55:40,630 --> 02:55:36,880
things every day and reporting uh we

4432
02:55:42,790 --> 02:55:40,640
have all of this and then the media

4433
02:55:44,790 --> 02:55:42,800
which there are great journalists and

4434
02:55:47,429 --> 02:55:44,800
reporters out there that are pushing

4435
02:55:49,910 --> 02:55:47,439
this forward and digging into things

4436
02:55:52,550 --> 02:55:49,920
ross coltart for example

4437
02:55:55,110 --> 02:55:52,560
is a great example of that leslie kane

4438
02:55:56,389 --> 02:55:55,120
ralph blumenthal and others

4439
02:56:00,469 --> 02:55:56,399
that

4440
02:56:02,230 --> 02:56:00,479
information is coming at us from all

4441
02:56:06,070 --> 02:56:02,240
different directions

4442
02:56:08,710 --> 02:56:06,080
that is why i think that the

4443
02:56:09,990 --> 02:56:08,720
the things are in place

4444
02:56:11,510 --> 02:56:10,000
right now

4445
02:56:14,550 --> 02:56:11,520
to have

4446
02:56:17,190 --> 02:56:14,560
real action in 2022.

4447
02:56:19,990 --> 02:56:17,200
i i really believe that are we gonna get

4448
02:56:21,429 --> 02:56:20,000
uh you know it's the um it's the

4449
02:56:23,190 --> 02:56:21,439
ultimate question

4450
02:56:24,710 --> 02:56:23,200
and uh i'm gonna grab a phone call i'm

4451
02:56:26,630 --> 02:56:24,720
already out of time i'm at the end of

4452
02:56:28,550 --> 02:56:26,640
the show the ultimate question are we

4453
02:56:29,510 --> 02:56:28,560
going to have a live press conference

4454
02:56:32,630 --> 02:56:29,520
from

4455
02:56:35,510 --> 02:56:32,640
uh the white house right is that

4456
02:56:37,510 --> 02:56:35,520
and and for most and i get it

4457
02:56:40,950 --> 02:56:37,520
uh that includes the world not only the

4458
02:56:43,429 --> 02:56:40,960
ufo community but the world that until

4459
02:56:44,469 --> 02:56:43,439
that happens

4460
02:56:46,150 --> 02:56:44,479
there

4461
02:56:47,990 --> 02:56:46,160
is a question

4462
02:56:50,710 --> 02:56:48,000
right that the question will be out

4463
02:56:53,429 --> 02:56:50,720
there but until that happens that would

4464
02:56:55,429 --> 02:56:53,439
absolutely 100 seal the deal

4465
02:56:58,389 --> 02:56:55,439
for everybody

4466
02:57:01,830 --> 02:56:58,399
will that happen will that moment

4467
02:57:02,710 --> 02:57:01,840
happen i remember when pasaki uh

4468
02:57:06,150 --> 02:57:02,720
uh

4469
02:57:08,550 --> 02:57:06,160
was fielding the uap ufo questions

4470
02:57:10,389 --> 02:57:08,560
uh from the press corps

4471
02:57:12,950 --> 02:57:10,399
and and i thought to myself that's the

4472
02:57:14,469 --> 02:57:12,960
first time i have ever

4473
02:57:17,269 --> 02:57:14,479
in my memory

4474
02:57:20,150 --> 02:57:17,279
that that has happened in the press room

4475
02:57:23,269 --> 02:57:20,160
at the white house that this question uh

4476
02:57:26,230 --> 02:57:23,279
at the ufo is mentioned right and you've

4477
02:57:28,150 --> 02:57:26,240
got to flip open your three-ring binder

4478
02:57:30,870 --> 02:57:28,160
and get to the page that you need to

4479
02:57:34,070 --> 02:57:30,880
address the ufo issue right there and

4480
02:57:37,190 --> 02:57:34,080
and hit this head on and there is prep

4481
02:57:39,750 --> 02:57:37,200
by the press secretary to answer these

4482
02:57:42,469 --> 02:57:39,760
questions that's never happened before

4483
02:57:45,190 --> 02:57:42,479
right so are we at this moment

4484
02:57:47,670 --> 02:57:45,200
it feels like we are okay with that uh

4485
02:57:50,070 --> 02:57:47,680
i've had people on hold let's just uh

4486
02:57:51,830 --> 02:57:50,080
let's just grab one quick phone call and

4487
02:57:53,349 --> 02:57:51,840
get a comment hi you're live on fade to

4488
02:57:54,389 --> 02:57:53,359
black who's calling

4489
02:57:55,750 --> 02:57:54,399
questions

4490
02:57:58,070 --> 02:57:55,760
okay you guys

4491
02:57:59,349 --> 02:57:58,080
from saskatoon

4492
02:58:02,389 --> 02:57:59,359
honk

4493
02:58:04,389 --> 02:58:02,399
okay turn me down in the background you

4494
02:58:07,429 --> 02:58:04,399
got 30 seconds what did you think of the

4495
02:58:10,309 --> 02:58:09,190
do i ever love you

4496
02:58:12,389 --> 02:58:10,319
always

4497
02:58:15,110 --> 02:58:12,399
do i uh

4498
02:58:18,550 --> 02:58:15,120
oh zondo remember we talked about that

4499
02:58:22,230 --> 02:58:18,560
in the past we have you and i discuss

4500
02:58:24,630 --> 02:58:22,240
that okay what do you wonder about that

4501
02:58:26,870 --> 02:58:24,640
well let me tell me well i'm asking

4502
02:58:28,550 --> 02:58:26,880
i'm asking you what did you think of the

4503
02:58:32,070 --> 02:58:28,560
conversation tonight did you learn

4504
02:58:36,150 --> 02:58:34,630
jimmy who doesn't learn anything

4505
02:58:38,790 --> 02:58:36,160
watching

4506
02:58:41,190 --> 02:58:38,800
fade to black all right yeah

4507
02:58:43,750 --> 02:58:41,200
that's that's an honest uh

4508
02:58:45,910 --> 02:58:43,760
that's an an honest answer michael well

4509
02:58:47,510 --> 02:58:45,920
listen enjoy your night and i'll see you

4510
02:58:49,349 --> 02:58:47,520
tomorrow night right here i gotta roll

4511
02:58:50,790 --> 02:58:49,359
credits and get out of here thank you

4512
02:58:53,590 --> 02:58:50,800
for uh

4513
02:58:56,710 --> 02:58:53,600
hey jimmy jimmy yes give me uh

4514
02:58:58,790 --> 02:58:56,720
a hunk can you give me a honk what's a

4515
02:59:02,070 --> 02:58:58,800
honk

4516
02:59:04,230 --> 02:59:02,080
it's canadian man oh okay i have no idea

4517
02:59:06,550 --> 02:59:04,240
i'm i'm from i'm from south of the

4518
02:59:08,309 --> 02:59:06,560
border hey mike enjoy your night man

4519
02:59:10,630 --> 02:59:08,319
thank you for the phone call it was a

4520
02:59:12,150 --> 02:59:10,640
great night tonight on the show for sure

4521
02:59:14,870 --> 02:59:12,160
and uh thank you so much we'll see you

4522
02:59:16,550 --> 02:59:14,880
tomorrow right here and uh what a great

4523
02:59:18,790 --> 02:59:16,560
night tonight and i'm gonna get out of

4524
02:59:20,630 --> 02:59:18,800
here i gotta roll credits i gotta get

4525
02:59:23,670 --> 02:59:20,640
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4526
02:59:25,429 --> 02:59:23,680
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02:59:27,349 --> 02:59:25,439
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02:59:30,630 --> 02:59:27,359
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4529
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4530
02:59:35,030 --> 02:59:32,960
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4531
02:59:36,630 --> 02:59:35,040
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4532
02:59:39,030 --> 02:59:36,640
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02:59:40,630 --> 02:59:39,040
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4534
02:59:42,870 --> 02:59:40,640
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4535
02:59:44,550 --> 02:59:42,880
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4536
02:59:45,990 --> 02:59:44,560
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4537
02:59:47,510 --> 02:59:46,000
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4538
02:59:49,030 --> 02:59:47,520
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4539
02:59:51,510 --> 02:59:49,040
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4540
02:59:52,790 --> 02:59:51,520
tomorrow night james fox

4541
02:59:56,950 --> 02:59:52,800
right here

4542
03:00:00,550 --> 02:59:56,960
until then i want everybody to be safe

4543
03:00:12,380 --> 03:00:00,560
it's time to fade to black

4544
03:00:23,560 --> 03:00:21,010
[Music]

4545
03:00:40,710 --> 03:00:23,570
[Applause]

4546
03:00:53,570 --> 03:00:42,660
so